New Player Experience Sucks! - Impending Expansion Problems

[Melichoir]

I don’t disagree I’m just saying if something like this did happen I would prefer it happen in a way where the MSQ experience would be intact while others can essentially have a glorified skip potion.

The problem utlimately still becomes the same issue: If you introduce this option, it will (over time) become standard practice among starting players and will be actively encouraged by older players to do so. Let me point this out, A lot of people migrate here and start FFXIV based on word of mouth by friends (either online or RL). Rather than having veteran players 'help' out newer players through dungeons and encouraging them to progress, theyll be told "Just skip MSQ. Its all story, and hurry to max level so we can play together." The misguided notion here would be that you cant play together with a lower level player. Yes the MSQ is solo, but the game isnt. You can run dungeons with them, encourage them to explore the game, help them secure an FC and build a community. That gets thrown out the window with an MSQ skip because then its "Dont enjoy teh story,just hurry up to max level so we can play together. Ill just speed you through POTD to max your level."

This is why I dont want to change things, or at the least, if you want to skip it, there should be a deterrent to it. The option is available currently. It is there. But its not cheap, so only the most determined to skip and rush will do so. This prevents it from being standard practice and keeps the core of the game still focused on MSQ and not end content.

[Physic]

The problem utlimately still becomes the same issue: If you introduce this option, it will (over time) become standard practice among starting players and will be actively encouraged by older players to do so. Let me point this out, A lot of people migrate here and start FFXIV based on word of mouth by friends (either online or RL). Rather than having veteran players 'help' out newer players through dungeons and encouraging them to progress, theyll be told "Just skip MSQ. Its all story, and hurry to max level so we can play together." The misguided notion here would be that you cant play together with a lower level player. Yes the MSQ is solo, but the game isnt. You can run dungeons with them, encourage them to explore the game, help them secure an FC and build a community. That gets thrown out the window with an MSQ skip because then its "Dont enjoy teh story,just hurry up to max level so we can play together. Ill just speed you through POTD to max your level."

This is why I dont want to change things, or at the least, if you want to skip it, there should be a deterrent to it. The option is available currently. It is there. But its not cheap, so only the most determined to skip and rush will do so. This prevents it from being standard practice and keeps the core of the game still focused on MSQ and not end content.

the core of the game is not focused on msq. You do msq a lot when you start, and rarely after that. People who play this game consistently tend to spend most of their leveling jobs, gear hunting, progression, dungeons/raids and glamour.

whether msq is locked or not, friends will need to help them through dungeons, as thats where most gear/exp is.


running dungeons and doing other things with new players doesnt make sense, because msq is the limiter on progress. They beat satasha and get their gear, cool, lets try the next dungeon! oh, well you have to do your msq first. The more they play with you, the more overlevel they become, the more msq becomes the only thing they should do. Oh man, i'm level 30, but im level 20 msq, you can only go to level 19 dungeons, no chocobo, no grand company, cant do your job quest.

it just doesnt actually line up, if you ever play with a newbie, you end up telling them just do msq. The solo activity shouldnt be gating group play as much as it does. It causes people to rush it more.

If msq is satisfying a player, they will do it, as long as it gives exp, and items.