CRUEL! Shame on your SE

[Forsving95]

Now that the auto demo is back on, surely some properties will free up in the coming weeks. As nicely mentioned before, have a little patience.

I personally don't even think it'll help the average player without luck anyway (depending on server). For me that just means more people will show up around the timer. It will be the same as always, but with more oppertunities is all.. Still not much hope.

And most people can't even buy one. Sounds like you've been quite lucky.

Im pretty sure she meant she's lost several attempts on buying a plot ^^

This would require removing the ability to transfer into plots before the timer is up, transfers would need to be put into the lottery pool.

This would make it so that you can't directly sell plots to other players, which SE doesn't want happening, while also taking away the advantage people with autoclicker bots have in getting plots. And also means people aiming for a plot don't have to camp the plot for potentiality hours on end to be there when it opens.

I too read that post and although I think its better than this atrocity, its still merely a temporary fix imo. As I mentioned in a previous post, this isn't a fix, but still something I think needs to be implemented.

Unless im mistaken, the current ''rule'' (or whatever to call it) is one FC house and one personal house per account (?). I fully and completely agree with this. The problem is that SE is contradicting themselves (imo) by letting players who already owned multiple houses previous to this ''rule'' is allowed to keep their houses.

Now before the ''house hoarders'' come attacking. Let me say that in no way are the people who have rightfully purchased multiple houses to be blamed for the mess this game's housing system is in. But with no current ''solution'' in sight. I cannot see a good argument why one person should be able to own 30+ houses for themselves.

I understand that it would feel like a punishment by SE to remove their houses, but by reimbursing them for each house, they atleast wont lose anything and its all for the sake of aiding the community. House hoarders -ARE- a part of the problem. They're not the -cause- of this. But they're definitely part of it.

Just to make a hypothetical. There are 4320 plots per server (?). Theoretically that should/could give 4320 players a house. I am however aware that people can have two houses, one personal house and one FC house.

Now lets say out of all these thousands of players... 20 players have 10 houses on the server. That's 200 houses for 20 people. Meaning they're preventing 180 players from getting a house because of their greed.

[Forsving95]

Or you buy an apartment because an apartment is housing just as much as a house in a ward is. Not to mention every character on your account is allowed to buy an apartment once they meet the purchase requirements. Last I heard even Balmung has apartments available.

At least you point out that instanced housing is a better system as it allows all players to purchase what they want. Let's keep encouraging SE to implement better instanced housing instead of expanding/changing a ward system that does not and never will meet the overall needs of the player base.

Apartments are ridiculously small though. So I can't agree with it being as much of a house as a house in a ward is. But I definitely agree with the instancing idea. We all understand by now what Square enix hoped to achieve with these wards. To create a form of neighbourhood for the community. But that idea is all honesty failed. Most of the time wards are ghost times and are solely used to get to a specific house.

I think at this point it was a solid idea, but its time to let it go. As they've said before, they can't keep adding wards and plots. So the only -real- solution that I can see is making instanced housing.

[AnnaRosa]

I am not leaving my friends and fc behind for a house, what kind of horrible thought process is that.
I shouldn't have to give up the things I love for content in game.
I want the content, not need it. I specified that. I don't need to justify my wants either.
So to be straightforward. No, absolutely out of the question.

Never said you should "leave" your friends in same DC you won't "leave" your friends you have world visit system that allows you to do same things with them as if you were in same FC except for the crafting travels.
You wouldn't have to give up if they are really your friends they will continue do content with you in same DC and you have the opportunity to make new friends wherever you go.

Never wrote you needed to justify your wants or needs not sure to whom you are answering.

If you please read again my post what I wrote is about a possible solution to your personal drama and why "random timer" was implemented and how successful it was towards RMT.

Not sure if they will implement new housing system areas with the expansion if they will might be other solution.

[Agaziel]

Never said you should "leave" your friends in same DC you won't "leave" your friends you have world visit system that allows you to do same things with them as if you were in same FC except for the crafting travels.
You wouldn't have to give up if they are really your friends they will continue do content with you in same DC and you have the opportunity to make new friends wherever you go.

Never wrote you needed to justify your wants or needs not sure to whom you are answering.

If you please read again my post what I wrote is about a possible solution to your personal drama and why "random timer" was implemented and how successful it was towards RMT.

Not sure if they will implement new housing system areas with the expansion if they will might be other solution.

Agreed random times worked to prevent house selling.

[Vrankyl]

If you please read again my post what I wrote is about a possible solution to your personal drama and why "random timer" was implemented and how successful it was towards RMT.

Not sure if they will implement new housing system areas with the expansion if they will might be other solution.

Unfortunately that's not entirely true. RMT purchases for houses are still alive and well, the only difference is that instead of selling personal housing plots and relinquishing they are selling FCs or they are selling relocations. It may have cut into it a bit but it has no where near stomped it out or even made a considerable dent. The biggest issue with this timer is the insane times it can go to. Dragging a timer out up to 26 some hours is unhealthy and unreasonable. The timer easily could be for randomly between 1-4 hours and still have the same desired result.

[Alpha087]

I don't understand how anyone could possibly defend this awful system. Random timers that are not displayed and last up to a couple days are not good from both a gameplay standpoint and from a player health standpoint. And the benefit over the old system is suppose to be what, exactly? Hindering people's ability to sell houses to eachother? Well guess what, they still sell houses through Free Company housing, so nothing has been solved at all.

The system needs to be changed and it needs to be changed sooner rather than later.

[mjorge1991]

Is there even an NA server that has any plots available? Becauae from what i have been advised all NA servers are pretty much in the same situation. People have to waste hours and hours clicking....

[Forsving95]

I don't understand how anyone could possibly defend this awful system. Random timers that are not displayed and last up to a couple days are not good from both a gameplay standpoint and from a player health standpoint. And the benefit over the old system is suppose to be what, exactly? Hindering people's ability to sell houses to eachother? Well guess what, they still sell houses through Free Company housing, so nothing has been solved at all.

The system needs to be changed and it needs to be changed sooner rather than later.

Agreed. I've so far spent 2 whole days straight (nearly 48 hours now) staring at the ''placard'', pressing purchase. Lost 5 plots so far and each time I lose a plot to someone, my patience for square enix weakens. This system is one of the worst systems of all time simply because of how damaging it CAN be towards dedicated players (like me and others). People recommend you take sessions in trying to buy a house before taking a break. But the moment I leave a placard I feel like it could get sold any second.

This system is as you said damaging towards players health and mentality. Shame on square enix for using this method.

[supergiz]

Is there even an NA server that has any plots available? Becauae from what i have been advised all NA servers are pretty much in the same situation. People have to waste hours and hours clicking....

Excalibur has plots opening up every day (3-5). All are being camped by like 4 or more people (and at least 1 is always a botter)

[Jojoya]

Is there even an NA server that has any plots available? Becauae from what i have been advised all NA servers are pretty much in the same situation. People have to waste hours and hours clicking....

For the Crystal data center Goblin, Brynhildr, Diabolos and Malboro all have a reasonable number of available houses according to a post in the census thread yesterday. Zalera still has a couple of dozen as well. Mateus, Balmung and Coeurl are pretty much dry - dependent on things opening through auto-demo.