Summoners: Please give us actual summons to make us feel like a Summoner please.

[Haxaan]

I'm sure this would never happen, but part of me wishes that the arcanist stuff could be divorced from summoner.

I love the Aetherflow system with the limited charges for strong abilities. I like the bio/miasma dots, I like the runic symbols taht appear for ruin spells etc.

But I don't like the summoner stuff. I don't like demi bahamut, and I prefer the carbuncles over egis.

Makes me wish that they would split summoner off into a 'proper summoner' type job and arcanist could be its own thing with the stuff I listed above. I know it won't though especially with smn/sch already splitting from a base class.

You could just take the summoner soul stone off and play as a lvl 70 arcanist, I don't see the point in that, but that would get rid of all the summoner aspects of summoner that you don't like.

[Bright-Flower]

You could just take the summoner soul stone off and play as a lvl 70 arcanist, I don't see the point in that, but that would get rid of all the summoner aspects of summoner that you don't like.

In RP I can just glamour over the egi with a carbuncle, problem solved.

In terms of actual content, no I'm not going to take the stone off and go into duty finder as an arcanist because gimping myself in that way would be very selfish and a detriment to the group. I may wish that arcanist was its own job separate from summoner, but I'm not going to make other people suffer for it.

[Ayer2015]

When I got FF14 at 2.0 I was hyped to play SMN expecting a job something in the vein of Yuna..... then the realization we get egi....

Now I'm a healer.

[Jaywalker]

...alongside promises like being able to use Sefirot-Egi and the like in the future.

If there are Warring Triad summon options I would get over my intimidation of summoners and actually learn to play them.

Also, honestly if there was an option to shift Egis to feel material and have more visual detail that would be really cool. Imo the Ifrit minion looks more like Ifrit than the Ifrit Egi currently. And I mean toy Alexander, OMG, those look fantastic as minions. Having Egis at least be able to visually compete with minions even if they're small seems like it shouldn't be a crazy expectation.

[Bright-Flower]

I wouldn't so much mind the egis maybe if they looked better. I don't mind the idea of summons as WoW like warlock pets, but the three egis just look so lame. More glamour options for better looking egis combined with maybe being able to glam bahamut with Alexander, Shinryu, Giga Carbuncle etc could be an interesting way to add more visual variety to the job without having to greatly change the gameplay and spells that already exist.

[AnnaRosa]

I'm so disappointed with what they have done to summoners in FFXIV, Giving us a watered down poor excuse for a summoner. I once read it was because they didn't want 100 people on screen with an Ifrit summon out so instead we have 100 people with a red blob out which looks ugly. Below is a video of FF11 and as you can see, the summons look amazing, cool as hell and made summoners feel like they were a summoner int he FF universe. Other asian mmo's have summoners that feel more FF than this game. Make Summoners Great Again!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMX33Su7PXo

Totally agree the more summons the more funny to play there were these summons from a game called Megaten Imagine from Cave creator you would have to work for the summons and it was so funny you wouldn't imagine how many you could make with different spells each.
If they could implement a system like that in FFXIV for summoners everyone would be playing summoner.
The MMO was closed so now you can't try it but they made a single player game based on it since PS1 called shin megami tensei.

[KikoriL]

I wonder how many people would be pacified if summoning Bahamut was given a "Summon [Primal] roulette" treatment? No actual change to the mechanics, just a chance to summon Demi any-primal-you've-beat.

[HeyMcFly]

When I got FF14 at 2.0 I was hyped to play SMN expecting a job something in the vein of Yuna..... then the realization we get egi....

Now I'm a healer.

This - I started out as summoner, seeing Carbuncle & being tickled hoping we would get larger summons just like in FF11, only to see another summoner with Garuda & I had actually asked them what mini that was... Decided to not continue summoner & moved onto more satisfying things like Astrologian.

[Zhamkyong]

If there are Warring Triad summon options I would get over my intimidation of summoners and actually learn to play them.

Nah, SMN is not a dificult class to play. It may seem that way, but even with the cluster of mechanics/abilities from ARR/HW/SB (since it may seem to go in diferent directions each one of them) the class is actually easy and rewarding to play. Death punishes a lot on SMN, but once you get how to play it you just roll with it naturally.

[jadan2000]

maann. that video really brought back memories. I definitely would like to see more egis closer tot he size of Bahamut