What consumers expect of a FF-title

[Seif]

I just found out a lot of XIII-2 was just outsourced from tri-ace. That's like Da Vinci asking for Matisse to help with anatomy. Also Tales of Xilia outsold XIII-2 in Japan. The first time Tales has done it though the numbers weren't that big to beat.

[Elexia]

I just found out a lot of XIII-2 was just outsourced from tri-ace. That's like Da Vinci asking for Matisse to help with anatomy. Also Tales of Xilia outsold XIII-2 in Japan. The first time Tales has done it though the numbers weren't that big to beat.

Tales BARELY outsold XIII-2 at the time the numbers were released. The Tales of games have actually been getting better.

[Charismatic]

The Tales of games have actually been getting worse.

Honestly, 2D Tales = Best Tales
I hate that the fanbase is falling in love with these spammy no-need-for-strategy games they've been coming out with lately.

Destiny 2 is still tops in my mind. Barbatos was such a great boss even though he's almost soulcrushingly difficult in the 3rd battle if you don't already know how to handle him. But that's what made it so great, you had to actually work out a way to beat him instead of just zerging like all the bosses in the latest games.

[Malakhim]

I didn't say the stories weren't good(if you'll notice, I gave what might seem like borderline irrational praise to FFXIII's story and characters). I said they are what they are, and what they are is only a few notches above something written for a teenager/young adult(incidentally a large portion of the series' fanbase). That isn't to say they CAN'T write something "adult", in fact I think the stories have been moving towards that direction since FFX if ever so slightly.

Jennestia, you're honestly going to point out the series that has a dude living inside another dude through his ARM and classy names such as "Big Momma" as amazing subject matter? I love me some Metal Gear Solid 3(and that does have few decent plot points) and the fact that there's actually a message behind the series, but come on now.

[SnickleWhiskers]

dude living inside another dude through his.

go finish MGS4 and then rephrase that please.

[Betelgeuzah]

go finish MGS4 and then rephrase that please.

"I don't know

Therefore nanomachines"

[DrekeLamorte]

"I don't know

Therefore nanomachines"

To Malakhim as well.

Your being awfully closed-minded about what makes something good. I may be reading into your statement a bit too heavily, but to me it seems that you think damn near every game that has ever come out is cliche' or hokey in some way.

Well I hate to break it to you, but so is damn near every single movie, book, and work of art ever conceived. We are coming to the era of recreating works because of the lack of truly unique and 'new' ideas. IMO, Hollywood should really stop making super hero remakes, and sequels to otherwise good movies. (sillly example: The Lion King 2...Umm... Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.)

Science fiction is meant to be outlandish. Otherwise it would be "slightly exaggerated science."

[viion]

IMO, Hollywood should really stop making super hero remakes

noooooooooooooo dont do dat, i luv them!!