A mentor kicked my dog!

[Gula]

I know you mean well by suggesting the videos - but you need to keep in mind not everybody is capable of benefiting from them. Tactile learners don't learn much from videos or guides, they have to learn by actually doing.

Are you a teacher? Because all this right here.

And I didn't buy this game plus expansions to watch someone else play the game for me. Telling someone to watch a whole guide because they can't be bothered to actually communicate in an MMO beyond insults and belittlement not only wastes more time, but is indeed rude.

[Keddera_StormMoon]

Are you a teacher? Because all this right here.

And I didn't buy this game plus expansions to watch someone else play the game for me. Telling someone to watch a whole guide because they can't be bothered to actually communicate in an MMO beyond insults and belittlement not only wastes more time, but is indeed rude.

Not officially, no. But I like to teach and training people on the software I support is a large part of my job.

Learning about the various types of learning is just one of the things I've picked up over the years and I've found to be true.

[Crystal_Raven]

I know you mean well by suggesting the videos - but you need to keep in mind not everybody is capable of benefiting from them. Tactile learners don't learn much from videos or guides, they have to learn by actually doing.

This is false.

You may not learn everything from a video, however, you can easily learn what happens at what time by watching a video. For example the boss rotation. If you are a healer you can easily learn the rotation of the boss by watching a video so you know exactly when to pop your strongest heals without missing a beat.

At the same time, if you are a tank, you can learn the correct time for a tank buster to pop your mitigation and avoid taking maximum damage. You don't need to be a genius to learn that, you just need to watch a video about the boss fight and have fairly basic brain functionality which I'm pretty sure everyone has.

I do this all the time. I regularly watch videos on Savage things for example so I know what the mechanics will be and I remember them and know what to do. The speed at which I react and do things increases as I go through the dungeon.

If I can do it, so can you, and person A, and B, and C, and everyone else.

[Keddera_StormMoon]

This is false.

You may not learn everything from a video, however, you can easily learn what happens at what time by watching a video. For example the boss rotation. If you are a healer you can easily learn the rotation of the boss by watching a video so you know exactly when to pop your strongest heals without missing a beat.

At the same time, if you are a tank, you can learn the correct time for a tank buster to pop your mitigation and avoid taking maximum damage. You don't need to be a genius to learn that, you just need to watch a video about the boss fight and have fairly basic brain functionality which I'm pretty sure everyone has.

I'm sorry, but you are gravely mistaken.

At the most, they might know what's coming, but they will not retain it. Especially if they're a read/write or kinetic learner.

I know this for a fact as I'm primarily a Kinetic Learner. I retain very little from even MTQ's videos which are well-done.

And I can tell you I've never EVER learned a boss rotation from watching a video. Only ones I've gotten any handle on is from actually taking on the bosses myself and either tanking or healing through them several times.

[Paladinleeds]

This is false.

You may not learn everything from a video, however, you can easily learn what happens at what time by watching a video. For example the boss rotation. If you are a healer you can easily learn the rotation of the boss by watching a video so you know exactly when to pop your strongest heals without missing a beat.

At the same time, if you are a tank, you can learn the correct time for a tank buster to pop your mitigation and avoid taking maximum damage. You don't need to be a genius to learn that, you just need to watch a video about the boss fight and have fairly basic brain functionality which I'm pretty sure everyone has.

You're missing another fundamental. Fragmented processing and "information overload" (this was stuff I learned all about when trying to figure out how to work around my challenges surrounding autism, in order to be successful in relationships, career, etc). These guides (especially for ex primals) throw too much at me at once and I can't break it down (trust me, I've tried). Combined with me being a kinaesthetic learner, and I've had it before where I've watched a guide, and performed worse than if I'd just gone in blind. Admittedly, I'm an edge case here (and different trials expect different things which may influence it), but that has been my experience. It's why I have to make my own parties because everyone says "Watch a guide before joining", which in my experience has made me perform worse so it's pointless for me.

I do this all the time. I regularly watch videos on Savage things for example so I know what the mechanics will be and I remember them and know what to do. The speed at which I react and do things increases as I go through the dungeon.

If I can do it, so can you, and person A, and B, and C, and everyone else.

Oh trust me, I WISH I could do it, and be more neurotypical. But alas, I have to deal with autism which is quite a significant difference in the way my brain is wired. I've watched videos on Savage, and just gotten more confused than going into the duty and tackling them bit by bit blind. That's the thing, you're assuming that everyone can do it, and I'm afraid that isn't the case, unless you were suggesting that by "anyone with a decent brain can do it" you're saying that I don't have a decent brain (by the way, I have a degree in digital media and technology and as part of that I had to do some SOFTWARE DEVELOPMENT which is challenging stuff). I can be successful in it, but given I'd have to watch the video practice it, get it down by practicing it, then watch the next bit to figure out the next bit, etc, due to my information overload issues (assuming that'd even work), I'd be wasting time still in your eyes and that I should have watched a video fully beforehand, when that doesn't help.

[Halivel]

This is false.

You may not learn everything from a video, however, you can easily learn what happens at what time by watching a video. For example the boss rotation. If you are a healer you can easily learn the rotation of the boss by watching a video so you know exactly when to pop your strongest heals without missing a beat.

At the same time, if you are a tank, you can learn the correct time for a tank buster to pop your mitigation and avoid taking maximum damage. You don't need to be a genius to learn that, you just need to watch a video about the boss fight and have fairly basic brain functionality which I'm pretty sure everyone has.

I do this all the time. I regularly watch videos on Savage things for example so I know what the mechanics will be and I remember them and know what to do. The speed at which I react and do things increases as I go through the dungeon.

If I can do it, so can you, and person A, and B, and C, and everyone else.

No it's not false. I personally have zero efficiency with videos. Absolute. Zero. I learn only by practice. Maximum what can I do with guide - check Tankbuster skill title in some text info, that's all. Fun thing that after I had some practice or even clear, I can deal with videos then, because I know what's going on there since I felt it with my own experience (and even then I'm still bad with them).

And due to the fact I was able to achieve "red" diploma in University, I suppose that maybe I'm not genius, but I definitely not dumb and my brains are not "basic".

[AxlStream]

No it's not false. I personally have zero efficiency with videos. Absolute. Zero. I learn only by practice. Maximum what can I do with guide - check Tankbuster skill title in some text info, that's all. Fun thing that after I had some practice or even clear, I can deal with videos then, because I know what's going on there since I felt it with my own experience (and even then I'm still bad with them).

And due to the fact I was able to achieve "red" diploma in University, I suppose that maybe I'm not genius, but I definitely not dumb and my brains are not "basic".

I mean.... if all you retain from a video is a name... you sound a bit basic. You should atleast pick up on the flow of the encounter watching a guide and I mean a GOOD guide. Not the crap Mr.Happy dishes out day 1 that rambles on for 30 minutes for a 10 minute fight.

[Halivel]

I mean.... if all you retain from a video is a name... you sound a bit basic. You should atleast pick up on the flow of the encounter watching a guide and I mean a GOOD guide. Not the crap Mr.Happy dishes out day 1 that rambles on for 30 minutes for a 10 minute fight.

MTQ considered as good guides maker and yet her movies are just chaotic frames set for me. I would have more benefits from clearing videos with PoV from the role I plan to go, which I do sometimes, but all those "video guides" are useless for me. If the fact that somebody does things in the other way and can't do them like you makes those people basic for you, then sorry, but I'm glad that we are on different DC and will never meet each other in dungeon. Because I know I play on not bad level, and if somebody going to think that I'm dumb or basic only because I can't use "useful guides" - I don't want to deal with them in any area.

[Keddera_StormMoon]

Just in this page alone we see two examples of people who just can't grasp that people might be wired differently from them in the head when it comes to "how" people learn.

Perfectly human reaction I suppose - to just dismiss that which they can't understand. The mundane do often reject the strange rather than try to understand it.

But I suppose that's why we have good mentors who understand this and try to empathize and adjust - and those who have no business wearing the crown being flippant and parroting "just watch a video" nonsense.

[Krotoan]

I mean.... if all you retain from a video is a name... you sound a bit basic. You should atleast pick up on the flow of the encounter watching a guide and I mean a GOOD guide. Not the crap Mr.Happy dishes out day 1 that rambles on for 30 minutes for a 10 minute fight.

Many people in this world are very different from you in many ways. This knowledge will only serve to help you in every aspect of your life.