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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    The NN on Moogle gives a seriously bad and incredibly inaccurate image of the server.
    Sorry but the vast majority of Moogle players give poor image of the server. Not just the NN on there.
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  2. #82
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    Alucard135's Avatar
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    Diaval Alucard
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven View Post
    Sorry but the vast majority of Moogle players give poor image of the server. Not just the NN on there.
    What would you expect? It's filled with nuts in there!
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  3. #83
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven View Post
    Sorry but the vast majority of Moogle players give poor image of the server. Not just the NN on there.
    If our server is that bad then I guess the rest of the game is a paradise.

    Not very much of interest happens there that you wouldn't find elsewhere. And yes I do play on more than one server. I play on three.
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  4. #84
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    On paper a mentor's job is to help sprouts by giving them information and advice.

    But that is not how all mentors treat the job.

    Some do it for the crown and exclusive cool kids chat room.

    There are good mentors and bad mentors.

    The bad mentors will always stand out more than the good ones.

    But there are plenty of good mentors out there that do their job.
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  5. #85
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    TalosEscher's Avatar
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    Talos Escher
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    ppl proplem aren't the mentors lol its themself.

    ur expecting them 2 be an angel and perfect social ppl. you realize how thats impossible.

    I'm not a mentor but i have explained fights only 2 be ignored. ive only vked afkers or a few jerks or ppl who go say watch YouTube.
    my time is worth more than people being lazy, if they are gonna come into a dungeon for old content and expect that no matter who they are paired up with they have to nicely tell them what they are suppose to do when its a roulette duty that i do everyday, i will tell them to watch youtube, its fast, it has visual guide, it doesnt consume other peoples time, and it wont kill you or destroy your pride. yes, it is easier to have someone explain to you what to do on the spot, but it doesnt go through everything because people forget something or another and they will have to end up playing to understand the mechanics fully, so whats the point dude? i did that throughout all ARR and HW, why cant others do it too?
    respect other people time, they are not there to baby sit you unless they put themselfs in that spot, supposedly by turning into a mentor
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  6. #86
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    MorbolvampireQueen6's Avatar
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    Nagini Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalosEscher View Post
    my time is worth more than people being lazy, if they are gonna come into a dungeon for old content and expect that no matter who they are paired up with they have to nicely tell them what they are suppose to do when its a roulette duty that i do everyday, i will tell them to watch youtube, its fast, it has visual guide, it doesnt consume other peoples time, and it wont kill you or destroy your pride. yes, it is easier to have someone explain to you what to do on the spot, but it doesnt go through everything because people forget something or another and they will have to end up playing to understand the mechanics fully, so whats the point dude? i did that throughout all ARR and HW, why cant others do it too?
    respect other people time, they are not there to baby sit you unless they put themselfs in that spot, supposedly by turning into a mentor
    visual guides don't help people I think people like you need to re read all the ways ppl learn lol honestly watching youtube makes me worse in a fight than not watching it lol and learning hands on. if you want perfect teams use coman sense and create 1 in party finder
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  7. #87
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalosEscher View Post
    my time is worth more than people being lazy, if they are gonna come into a dungeon for old content and expect that no matter who they are paired up with they have to nicely tell them what they are suppose to do when its a roulette duty that i do everyday, i will tell them to watch youtube, its fast, it has visual guide, it doesnt consume other peoples time, and it wont kill you or destroy your pride. yes, it is easier to have someone explain to you what to do on the spot, but it doesnt go through everything because people forget something or another and they will have to end up playing to understand the mechanics fully, so whats the point dude? i did that throughout all ARR and HW, why cant others do it too?
    respect other people time, they are not there to baby sit you unless they put themselfs in that spot, supposedly by turning into a mentor
    I only expect people to watch guides for extreme primals or savage raids. Everything else, eh.. wing it. Most dungeon mechanics are straightforward enough and can be learned by a decent player pretty quickly.

    That being said, if someone ASKS straight out for a mechanic to be explained, telling them to go to Youtube is just rude as hell and, in fact, takes longer than just belting out a one sentence explanation of what they need to do.

    Decent example of this: the other day I got Ghymlit Dark (no, I can't spell that, no one can) on expert and got a new healer. No problem, we go through the dungeon he figures things out quickly enough. Get to the last boss, blue guy does the bomb drops and well... everyone falls the first time.

    While I was running back after the wipe I just quickly typed out "look at the pattern of bombs, stand where there are not bombs, then you just dance a little to avoid explosions"

    Simple as that, we crushed the fight. One sentence, it didn't even consume any of the dungeon time since we were running back anyway.
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    Last edited by Callinon; 05-05-2019 at 02:48 PM.

  8. #88
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalosEscher View Post
    my time is worth more than people being lazy, if they are gonna come into a dungeon for old content and expect that no matter who they are paired up with they have to nicely tell them what they are suppose to do when its a roulette duty that i do everyday, i will tell them to watch youtube, its fast, it has visual guide, it doesnt consume other peoples time, and it wont kill you or destroy your pride.

    i did that throughout all ARR and HW, why cant others do it too?
    respect other people time, they are not there to baby sit you unless they put themselfs in that spot, supposedly by turning into a mentor
    I would never expect someone to look up a guide for a dungeon or normal mode trial. That's honestly unreasonable to ask for in msq level content. Most things can be picked up pretty quickly anyway so aside from a handful of instances at most you'd wipe once. Big deal If a player is very bad at the game chances are a youtube video won't help. If you can't handle the fact that players need to learn content as they unlock it then stop playing with pugs.
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  9. #89
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Sagittarius
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TalosEscher View Post
    i did that throughout all ARR and HW, why cant others do it too?
    Because they are not you.

    i will tell them to watch youtube, its fast, it has visual guide, it doesnt consume other peoples time
    Not all people are okay with video guides. Not all people are okay with any guides at all. I personally can watch/read it 1000000 times and understand absolute zero, but will learn fast when start actuall practice. And there are plenty of people like this, who prefer learn by practice. You can say "then play with FC/Friends", but not all have FC and friends, tones of people here play completely alone.

    my time is worth more than people being lazy
    respect other people time
    I do understand this point, but you also should remember that your time is not worth more, than their. If you think it is, then I'm sorry, but then the one who should play with fixed party is you. You should respect others too, it's not one gate play.

    Every time I use DF I'm ready that there probably will be somebody who play worse than rest of the party, or they need more time to adapt so I try to save at least 30 minutes for dungeon for not being have to rush. If suddenly I haven't time because need to do something right now then I apologize and leave. But whining that others should be faster? Because "my time is valuable"? It's broken selfish logic. Everyone's time is valuable, not only mine. And I did understand it pretty well when I was a mentor.
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    Last edited by Halivel; 05-05-2019 at 11:01 PM.

  10. #90
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    Tifka Stormmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by TalosEscher View Post
    my time is worth more than people being lazy, if they are gonna come into a dungeon for old content and expect that no matter who they are paired up with they have to nicely tell them what they are suppose to do when its a roulette duty that i do everyday, i will tell them to watch youtube, its fast, it has visual guide, it doesnt consume other peoples time, and it wont kill you or destroy your pride. yes, it is easier to have someone explain to you what to do on the spot, but it doesnt go through everything because people forget something or another and they will have to end up playing to understand the mechanics fully, so whats the point dude? i did that throughout all ARR and HW, why cant others do it too?
    respect other people time, they are not there to baby sit you unless they put themselfs in that spot, supposedly by turning into a mentor
    You are missing one fundamental -

    Not everybody learns things best in a certain manner

    Some are Visual learners - they do well with videos and such
    Some are audio learners - videos do help these people somewhat as stuff is being explained.
    Still others are tactile/kinetic learners - they only learn by actually DOING
    And others are read/write learners - they only learn by writing or reading about the subject. These are your note takers and guide readers.

    I know you mean well by suggesting the videos - but you need to keep in mind not everybody is capable of benefiting from them. Tactile learners don't learn much from videos or guides, they have to learn by actually doing.
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    Last edited by Keddera_StormMoon; 05-05-2019 at 10:38 PM.

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