New Player Experience Sucks! - Impending Expansion Problems

[LalaRu]

If people stops talking for their cousin, friend, or cat, will be nice.

If your cat doesn't meowlike something, he can go here in forum and discuss.

[SturmChurro]

If people stops talking for their cousin, friend, or cat, will be nice.

If your cat doesn't meowlike something, he can go here in forum and discuss.

Oh yeah, I'm sure I'm just making this up. Get real.

Still gotta pay for it.

Also, need more than 25 dollars, as you'd need both the MSQ skip and the Level Boost.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. So you would be paying like as much for the game for one level skip/story skip.

Could just story skip and spend an evening in PotD. I certainly wouldn't pay for level skip when getting to 60 is so easy.

It would be more than an evening. If a new player would even know to do that.

[RicaRuin]

Oh yeah, I'm sure I'm just making this up. Get real.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. So you would be paying like as much for the game for one level skip/story skip.

It would be more than an evening. If a new player would even know to do that.

Also because we can only level alt classes so fast because of the armory bonus (sp?) we get for having another class on a higher level already.

[SturmChurro]

Also because we can only level alt classes so fast because of the armory bonus (sp?) we get for having another class on a higher level already.

Exactly.

Anyone trying to say I am cheap, implying I am talking for myself, or some other bull. I have 1800 hours in this game, have completed the majority of the content, and have manually leveled every single one of my classes. I am speaking broadly, and this passive-aggressiveness is unwarranted.

[FoxyAreku]

You should tell him that it doesn't matter if he's caught up, being caught up just means he's going to run out of things to do faster. A big appeal of this game is the story so you should be supporting him to take his time and enjoy it as he goes and run the dungeons/trials involved in that with him in the mean time. That's what I do with my friends and they love it.

Unless he's the type of player who only cares about raiding, in which case this may just not be the game for him to begin with but if he's determined anyway the skip potion option is there.

This game isn't really new player unfriendly at all, it's just people approach it with the wrong mindset thanks to games like WoW where endgame is all that matters.

[Emmanellain]

I've found that most of the people I've introduced to this MMO tend to get tuckered out by ARR, as it contains a LOT of filler. The ones that stayed were the ones that managed to make it to HW, once they engage with HW their perception of the game changes, as the overall story improves a lot.
And I don't blame them, to be honest.

ARR is boring, I've played 3 alts through the story and slogging through it is painful, with new game+ they have an opportunity to go back and condense ARRs story and make it more engaging for new players if the hardware allows them to, at least I hope they consider it, because it's really, really bloated. Nowadays when I invite friends to play I pay for their ARR skip and have them watch the important cutscenes from ARR on youtube when they show signs of fatigue.

[Berret_Snow]

Yeah I left the game the first time around when I finished the patches leading to HW because they were just horrible. Friends that I tried getting into the game enjoy the setting and gameplay but get burnt out in the tedious ARR quest or those that make it quit during the patches. Really if they could cut out half of the filler quest I would 've 100% for it.

[Tempest222]

I do think something needs to be done to make the level 1 to current level cap or current expansion process more streamlined and less tedious, as I do not doubt that the game loses potential long time players over this. Some people are super into lore and that’s great, but some people are not ad enjoy the game for other reasons. Yes, someone who has zero interest in lore can still have long term fun in a game like ffxiv.

Personally I really don’t have much interest in the story at all. I’ve tried to get into it at various points and have always found it incredibly dull tbh, and realized I was just forcing myself to slog through walls of text, and then just went back to skipping it. I’m not saying is objectively bad or irrelevant (it’s obviously not) or anything just that it’s not for me, but I do enjoy everything else about the game.

Now, despite this I was obviously not put off by the new player experience because I was used to the idea of unlocking things as you go, and I did enjoy getting to see all the new environments and slowly learning how everything works in the game as I leveled. But I’m sure there are plenty of people who quit who would have otherwise stuck around had they not been presented with 100s of hours of running back and forth to get to current content. And yeah, it is only going to get worse the higher the level crap goes.

I think it would be a bit odd to just make the story and thus the road to unlocking new things totally optional as that’s not how this game is meant to work, but really, something other than pricey skip potions should be done with ARR, and especially the bit between ARR and HW, because I wouldn't doubt there are plenty of people who burn out after finishing ARR and realize they basically still have an entire game’s worth of quests standing between them and the next expansion.

[Makeda]

If people stops talking for their cousin, friend, or cat, will be nice.

Yeah I always discredit anything that begins with "I have a friend/SO/mom/favorite-serial-killer who ..." posts...

"Person-Up" and openly speak for yourself.

[Jimmymagic]

Yeah I always discredit anything that begins with "I have a friend/SO/mom/favorite-serial-killer who ..." posts...

"Person-Up" and openly speak for yourself.

This is happens a lot on the forums.