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    Yshtola's Avatar
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    Retainer Twenty
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 25
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I like how you're trying to make the criticism about them now. I guess you didn't fancy getting your hoarding highlighted.
    Do I have to pull the ignorant claims you have made about housing before? Do I have to remind others that you couldn't handle facts and had to resort to blocking me?

    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferNacht View Post
    I don't understand why you ignored the point that they were making. The point stands that people on this very OF complained about the old way and got a system change and are now complaining about the monster they created. The current system ONLY hurts first time buyers as nothing has changed for the people selling plots. If you look at the housing market subreddit, it's more active than ever, with large FCs going for 150-250 mil.

    It's absolutely ridiculous that just because this person owns multiple houses, their points are disregarded when they literally speak the exact state of the game everytime.

    But I guess haters are gonna hate right?
    Thank god some people get it...

    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    No. Being apart of the problem is what makes their opinions, generally, instantly disregarded.

    It's literally like owning a massive plot of land in a small town, then fanning yourself from your lofty porch and commenting on how many homeless there are in said town. You didn't break the law, you bought aaaall those 20 acres of land in an area just barely touching 100 acres. But you are still not budging and outright antagonizing others about for commenting on it.
    HAHAHAHA

    If you think I'm part of the problem, then what are players using automation to get a plot? The saviors of this game?

    On a serious note, I'm obviously the person that is preventing everyone on my server, and every other server, from acquiring a house. But hey, let's not talk about how 45 days is ridiculously long to free up a plot or how the previous system worked flawlessly in comparison to what we have now. Players feel entitled because SE has lowered housing prices so low that completing ARR essentially gives you enough money to buy a small house. Bring back the original prices and you can bet that overnight, your housing shortage is gone.

    Edit: Your comparison is so flawed. I own 26 houses on Gilgamesh. That's 0.6% of the server.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    Timer does seem to help with non-FC selling though, so it did do something. It's just also frustrating of course but that is born out of the limited supply more than anything. Any solution to the problem is going to be a "problem" since the real issue is supply.

    They could improve the timer though by making it a lottery that even people who relocate have to take part in (put your gil down, lottery lasts a few hours and a winner is picked the rest get their gil back).

    Also there are so few houses just for giggles they could put a GM on housing duty that checks reddit for what houses are on sale and puts a notice in the system when they sell to see if anyone bought a house it (traded the gil amount and made any mention in game enough to prove) and then remove it from them, just for the giggles :P.
    No players still end up paying others to get a better plot instead of their first plot. Literally nothing has changed...

    The problem doesn't lie with the supply considering we went from less than 1000 houses to nearly 4500. The problem(s) lies in the fact that Square Enix has reduced and consolidated prices while letting players have their own personal houses. Gilgamesh had over a thousand empty plots by the time the moratorium of early 4.1 was over so I can't think of how empty small pop servers looked like even after those two weeks had passed.

    By the way, sorry to burst your bubble, but GMs do not care about 1 on 1 transactions unless someone gets scammed. If that does happen, you better hope to have that mutual agreement somewhere in the chat or they won't help you at all.
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    Last edited by Yshtola; 05-03-2019 at 12:13 AM.