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  1. #21
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    Cidel's Avatar
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Their current glamour system is so clunky and limited despite the attempt to alleviate the issue. We're coming to the 3rd expansion; we've had loads of dungeon, tomestone, crafted and raid gear spanning from ARR up until now. Just 200 slots doesn't even cover a fraction of even just one role's armor/weapons armor available now (which are largely relegated to only being glamour, given the rapid gear progression). They know gear aesthetics is a big part of their content, otherwise we wouldn't be having a new set from the Mogstation like every month (which can't be stored in the armoire).

    Glamour plates themselves are still awkward and brought down by limitations. They won't update unless you're specifically in a main city/residential area. If you actually like the base look of something you are currently equipped with, there's no work-around if that job shares even one other glamour plate; the appearance will be overwritten unless you manually use a glamour dispeller each time. And the limit of 10 plates is stifling, especially since most roles share their gear across 2-3 jobs.

    ShB really ought to be coming with an expanded dresser and plate limit, especially if they aren't handing out more inventory space. That's 10 more levels of dungeon sets, and 2 more years of raid, tomestone, PvP, whatever gear coming. I really would prefer if gear sets truly were disconnected between jobs using the same gear. Like say, you have your WHM set- maybe using JSE AF glamoured on it, but then swap to say, SCH or AST; the gear with WHM AF on it has an error and you're forced with the unglamoured base gear. The glamour plates are supposed to alleviate this but god forbid you're not swapping jobs in a city/tomestone hub.
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  2. #22
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    Velaethia's Avatar
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    Velaethia White
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bahd_Monkey View Post
    We need all three.
    What are the chances of any of them in shadowbringers?
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    Let's get one thing straight, I'm not

  3. #23
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Velaethia View Post
    What are the chances of any of them in shadowbringers?
    If they're asking a question like that, they likely think they can only do one or two of those things and not all three.

    The system needs to be designed again from scratch. The current system is so mind-bogglingly bad I'm amazed they let it out the door. The whole thing looks like a high school CS project, not a professional game studio.
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  4. #24
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    If they're asking a question like that, they likely think they can only do one or two of those things and not all three.

    The system needs to be designed again from scratch. The current system is so mind-bogglingly bad I'm amazed they let it out the door. The whole thing looks like a high school CS project, not a professional game studio.
    Which would involve redoing the entire way that gear data is stored, accessed and monitored. Likely delaying ANYTHING else being made since it would at least partially rely on the new system. How much of the playerbase do you think would be OK with waiting 3-6 months for ANYTHING other than a new inventory/glamour system to come out?
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  5. #25
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    Dirk Gently
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    Malboro
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Which would involve redoing the entire way that gear data is stored, accessed and monitored. Likely delaying ANYTHING else being made since it would at least partially rely on the new system. How much of the playerbase do you think would be OK with waiting 3-6 months for ANYTHING other than a new inventory/glamour system to come out?
    If they announced it, I'd throw a party.
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  6. #26
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    Iunia Arcena
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Which would involve redoing the entire way that gear data is stored, accessed and monitored. Likely delaying ANYTHING else being made since it would at least partially rely on the new system. How much of the playerbase do you think would be OK with waiting 3-6 months for ANYTHING other than a new inventory/glamour system to come out?
    I'd be fine with it. Glamour is the true end game, has the only real longevity, and oh... brings in a lot of mogstation money. I know because I tend to buy every new outfit that comes out for both of my characters. Someone at SE should be reinvesting that money into making glamour more user-friendly (which, in turn, would help promote mogstation and generate more profits).
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    Last edited by Bonbori; 04-27-2019 at 04:15 PM.

  7. #27
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Which would involve redoing the entire way that gear data is stored, accessed and monitored. Likely delaying ANYTHING else being made since it would at least partially rely on the new system. How much of the playerbase do you think would be OK with waiting 3-6 months for ANYTHING other than a new inventory/glamour system to come out?
    Given that they focus EU FanFests around cosmetics because that's what the region is most interested in...

    I'm going to say a decent portion of the playerbase would welcome better inventory and glamour systems.
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  8. #28
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    Velaethia's Avatar
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    Velaethia White
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    If they're asking a question like that, they likely think they can only do one or two of those things and not all three.

    The system needs to be designed again from scratch. The current system is so mind-bogglingly bad I'm amazed they let it out the door. The whole thing looks like a high school CS project, not a professional game studio.
    To be fair it's been stitched together over time. But yes it needs a full overhaul to be functional.
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  9. #29
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    Velaethia's Avatar
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    Velaethia White
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    Faerie
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    Summoner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    I'd be fine with it. Glamour is the true end game, has the only real longevity, and oh... brings in a lot of mogstation money. I know because I tend to buy every new outfit that comes out for both of my characters. Someone at SE should be reinvesting that money into making glamour more user-friendly and, by extension, promoting mogstation.
    Same. Though.
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  10. #30
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    Wynn Storm
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    Mateus
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    Samurai Lv 90
    With the current glamour system, i don't even buy all the outfits on the mogstation.

    I would have no where to put them. My dresser is full, my retainers are pretty full, my chocobo saddlebag is also full.

    Its sad to say, but improving the glamour system would probably kill sales on retainers, and i think that's why they hold off.

    But that's just my salty opinion.
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