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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post


    Are you serious?

    Yes you can basically report everyone for everything and spam the gm's with useless reports that cause them more work for nothing or you can just stop feeling offended by someone who spoilers a movie in a game.
    I'm not really affected by spoilers, but seriously?

    Why would someone playing this game have to suffer with being spoiled about a movie that they maybe were planning to watch soon, and is completely unrelated to the game (except for a couple of cases)?

    Also if you're going to pull the "please feel less offended" card, there's barely anything you can do that both breaches the ToS and also impacts anyone else significantly, besides offending feelings. The ToS is mostly about preventing offended feelings, ergo by your logic any reports made are useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    I'm not really affected by spoilers, but seriously?

    Why would someone playing this game have to suffer with being spoiled about a movie that they maybe were planning to watch soon, and is completely unrelated to the game (except for a couple of cases)?

    Also if you're going to pull the "please feel less offended" card, there's barely anything you can do that both breaches the ToS and also impacts anyone else significantly, besides offending feelings. The ToS is mostly about preventing offended feelings, ergo by your logic any reports made are useless.
    Most of the reports players make are useless since most reports are just made because someone feels offended by nothing. I think you have no idea for what people write reports, i mean the op already gives a good idea.
    Reports should only be filed if someone is cheating, botting, bugusing, harassing or heavily insulting someone. Everything else is a useless report.
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    Last edited by Ilan; 04-26-2019 at 06:24 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Most of the reports players make are useless since most reports are just made because someone feels offended by nothing. I think you have no idea for what people write reports, i mean the op already gives a good idea.
    Reports should only be filed if someone is cheating, botting, bugusing or heavily insulting someone. Everything else is a useless report.
    You have no idea about what people write reports about either, because you aren't a GM and if you were, you wouldn't speak about it. You also don't know what reports get actioned, to define what is or isn't useless.

    The ToS dictates what should be reported, not McPerson Playerface who's alright with spoiling people in shouts but is against any other random issue. It's supposed to be fair for everyone, not according to someone's bias.

    Ironically "heavily insulting someone" is all about feeling offended. Cheating as well, unless they cheated to steal a roll on loot from you or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You have no idea about what people write reports about either, because you aren't a GM and if you were, you wouldn't speak about it. You also don't know what reports get actioned, to define what is or isn't useless.

    The ToS dictates what should be reported, not McPerson Playerface who's alright with spoiling people in shouts but is against any other random issue. It's supposed to be fair for everyone, not according to someone's bias.
    Yeah thankfully i'm not a GM because i would've to shake my head way to often.

    Well if you think its ok for people to report every nonsense be my guest, i've stated my opinion to that topic and yes i think people are way to sensitive and way to eager to hit the report button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Yeah thankfully i'm not a GM because i would've to shake my head way to often.

    Well if you think its ok for people to report every nonsense be my guest, i've stated my opinion to that topic and yes i think people are way to sensitive and way to eager to hit the report button.
    Yes, I think it's great to report someone who just spoiled a movie that came out less than 24 hours ago, a blockbuster no less that many people will want to go see, and did it in Shout chat, meaning possibly everyone in the instance got spoiled.

    If you think this is something quite trivial and useless, I'm glad you don't set the ToS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Yes, I think it's great to report someone who just spoiled a movie that came out less than 24 hours ago, a blockbuster no less that many people will want to go see, and did it in Shout chat, meaning possibly everyone in the instance got spoiled.

    If you think this is something quite trivial and useless, I'm glad you don't set the ToS.
    Let me guess, the good guys win, everyone that got snapped revives because they have to play in their respective sequels ?

    Can you report Marvel for spoiling EndGame by anouncing Black Panther 2 and spiderman number I lost count ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Yes, I think it's great to report someone who just spoiled a movie that came out less than 24 hours ago, a blockbuster no less that many people will want to go see, and did it in Shout chat, meaning possibly everyone in the instance got spoiled.

    If you think this is something quite trivial and useless, I'm glad you don't set the ToS.
    Yes i'm also always happy if the person that i disagree with doesn't make the rules that prevent me from reporting everyone for everything.

    I'm wondering if the people who think this is a reportable offense also run to the police and file charges if they overhear someone talking about that movie on the streets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    Yeah thankfully i'm not a GM because i would've to shake my head way to often.

    Well if you think its ok for people to report every nonsense be my guest, i've stated my opinion to that topic and yes i think people are way to sensitive and way to eager to hit the report button.
    with the last tos, they are clearly trying to change the social contract of ffxiv. They actively dont want people griefing/hurting each other. Its all good to say something isnt a big deal, to a lot of people it might not be. But they will consider how much the person was offended into whether they take action, according to the tos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    You have no idea about what people write reports about either, because you aren't a GM and if you were, you wouldn't speak about it. You also don't know what reports get actioned, to define what is or isn't useless.

    The ToS dictates what should be reported, not McPerson Playerface who's alright with spoiling people in shouts but is against any other random issue. It's supposed to be fair for everyone, not according to someone's bias.

    Ironically "heavily insulting someone" is all about feeling offended. Cheating as well, unless they cheated to steal a roll on loot from you or something like that.
    I feel offended by the way you word your opinion. I feel it is needlessly aggressive and rude. Should I report?
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    Last edited by WaterShield; 04-27-2019 at 04:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    I feel offended by the way you word your opinion. I feel it is needlessly aggressive and rude. Should I report?
    Should I report you for threatening to report me and blackmailing me into silence? Should I report you for defending blatant trolling ingame?
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