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  1. #3761
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    Quote Originally Posted by LyraKuroneko View Post
    It is not that easy.

    Doing only as the community wished is bound to end up in a mess. And it is a game. So there is also the money side to take into account.
    It is a SE game as you says, not the game of the community. It is for them however, hence why we can suggest things.
    Well I think we should look at runescape, that does almost onyl what the community does and its extrmely popular.
    I do not think it would end up in a mess and I also don't agree with saying the game is for them, since it's like suggesting that they are the ones playing the game, which is not like that, they are only providing a service and I feel like they should provide the service their customers want, which would make them a lot more money. Also as for new players wanting something different ,I don't think that the game is going to have that many new players since for the worse or for the better they never ever change the base forumla, so they should focus on keeping the players they already have
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  2. #3762
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    SE ultimately entrust the game to Yoshi P’s direction, and I also doubt he’s the actual reason behind it all - it’s just as probable that he added 2 races whilst he could with the intention of using fan backlash to convince the higher ups to release more funding for the addition of the missing gender later on.

    I agree that absent a change in formula that they’re unlikely to attract droves of new players, but all that aside at most we can respectfully request that they add mViera and for those for whom their lack is a deal breaker, to make it clear to SE so they can understand the financial impact, whether it causes subs to end, purchases to reduce or whatever.
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  3. #3763
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    SE ultimately entrust the game to Yoshi P’s direction, and I also doubt he’s the actual reason behind it all - it’s just as probable that he added 2 races whilst he could with the intention of using fan backlash to convince the higher ups to release more funding for the addition of the missing gender later on.

    I agree that absent a change in formula that they’re unlikely to attract droves of new players, but all that aside at most we can respectfully request that they add mViera and for those for whom their lack is a deal breaker, to make it clear to SE so they can understand the financial impact, whether it causes subs to end, purchases to reduce or whatever.
    Yeah I think you're right. Maybe he did this knowing that he could only make 1 more race to use the backlash as an excuse to be able to do 2 full races.
    Also I will continue to do so and I apologize if my tone sounded disrespectful (sorry, english is not my native language so I might sound rude using expressions that in my language aren't) since for me male viera's absence is a dealbreaker and won't allow me to enjoy the game nearly as much as otherwise I would have
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  4. #3764
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Yeah I think you're right. Maybe he did this knowing that he could only make 1 more race to use the backlash as an excuse to be able to do 2 full races.
    Also I will continue to do so and I apologize if my tone sounded disrespectful (sorry, english is not my native language so I might sound rude using expressions that in my language aren't) since for me male viera's absence is a dealbreaker and won't allow me to enjoy the game nearly as much as otherwise I would have
    "Dealbreaker"? If Viera wasn't announced at all would you not be playing this game? Can't you just wear a hat or something?
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  5. #3765
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    "Dealbreaker"? If Viera wasn't announced at all would you not be playing this game? Can't you just wear a hat or something?
    Sigh It isnt about no male viera, it is about genderlocked races, and yes, for me it is, and I ask of you to respect that
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  6. #3766
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Sigh It isnt about no male viera, it is about genderlocked races, and yes, for me it is, and I ask of you to respect that
    Believe it or not the majority of the community understands and respects all players that made those requests to play Male Viera a few years ago or even a more beastly race with both genders so worry not might not everyone be vocal as you and me in these forums / reddit/ insta / game we still here to help even if the introduction of both races isn't relevant to me or any players that think alike.
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  7. #3767
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    Well I do know that but there are some extremely vocal ppl who can be very disrespectful, thanks for your support ^^
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  8. #3768
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    Maybe this was a calculated move for Yoshi P, maybe he needs to get approved to make new races and was told the next race would be the last one.
    So he created a demand by giving half of two races, hoping he could get approved for the other half down the line.
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  9. #3769
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emmanellain View Post
    Maybe this was a calculated move for Yoshi P, maybe he needs to get approved to make new races and was told the next race would be the last one.
    So he created a demand by giving half of two races, hoping he could get approved for the other half down the line.
    That's also my theory, and if it's like that, then I sure don't mind waiting for male viera if it also means SE is finally giving xiv some of the money they make back ^^
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  10. #3770
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    Since we're doing fan art again, I had an idea for a pair of Viera models that would not leave my head until made (excuse the bad background)

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