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  1. #1
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    van_arn's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Democratically doesn't mean anything other than was pointed out already. It just shows how the system works. And in the case of a dungeon, you don't even need a 'majority' rule. Two votes i.e. half and that player is gone. The actual emphasis is on harassment and AFK, which are the INTENDED reasons for using the dismiss feature. SE has acknowledged that the feature is not being used as intended, as I pointed out in my last post. You keep boasting like you have the power, and seem to be on some kind of high that you can readily and steadily use this feature to get rid of players you don't like. You have even admitted that a lot of players will see the vote dismiss and just click yes without even paying attention. If SE ever does crack down on this feature, you will be one of the most miserable players in Eorzea. But for now, by all means keep using this feature as YOU intend.
    I won't be miserable at all, since they aren't cracking down on it. And you know what? Their inaction for so long means they're perfectly ok with the way it's being used.

    Working as intended.

    And you know what? Trusts are going to make it even better. It's a game-sanctioned exile for the lowest performers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    I won't be miserable at all, since they aren't cracking down on it. And you know what? Their inaction for so long means they're perfectly ok with the way it's being used.

    Working as intended.

    And you know what? Trusts are going to make it even better. It's a game-sanctioned exile for the lowest performers.
    keep promoting kicking in dungeons, and enjoy when it becomes 1 hour queues.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    keep promoting kicking in dungeons, and enjoy when it becomes 1 hour queues.
    With egos the size of his, I have an itchy feeling of who will actually be using those trust NPCs to progress content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    With egos the size of his, I have an itchy feeling of who will actually be using those trust NPCs to progress content.
    To be fair, they will probably preform better then the average Duty Finder player.
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    Thurien Storme
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    To be fair, they will probably preform better then the average Duty Finder player.
    If they are anything like mercenaries in EQ2 they will barely be able to help you complete quests let alone a max level dungeon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyvara View Post
    If they are anything like mercenaries in EQ2 they will barely be able to help you complete quests let alone a max level dungeon.
    they will probably be better than the average player mostly due to superior stats, based on squadrons. They wont be better than optomized groups, but those are rare in a random duty finder.

    squadron aurum vale is way easier than duty finder aurum vale usually.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    With egos the size of his, I have an itchy feeling of who will actually be using those trust NPCs to progress content.
    My good friend, leaving the decision up to the party -- and not yourself -- is the death of ego. That's why a votekick should be used more often, rather than the arguments I see.

    Try a votekick the next time you see someone pulling out the "you don't pay my sub," especially if you aren't the one offering advice. It's up to you if you go for the catcher or the pitcher. That'll short-circuit a guaranteed argument every time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    the system works because the vast majority of people dont use it that way.
    *shrug* Theoretical. I'd say more should try it and see how it improves their experience. After all, loot lockout was added due to abuse of the system, so if Square decides there's abuse of the system they can correct the abuse at a later date. Their lack of updates to the system might as well be an official statement that they're perfectly content with the system as designed, and how it is being used. By all.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 04-24-2019 at 06:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    With egos the size of his, I have an itchy feeling of who will actually be using those trust NPCs to progress content.
    I'd gladly argue that the people with the biggest ego are the tanks who think they should be allowed to have the entitlement and privilegdes to be drama queens and divas while the world has to bow to their wishes because they think they are special snowflakes. As well as the people supporting that idea even if they aren't tank themselves.
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