A Fond Farewell to FF XIV

[Thoosa]

Lol I don’t get why people care about people posting they are leaving threads, and then they care just a bit more to post about it.

With these threads (if they’re well constructed and thought out) it’s quite interesting to find out why people are going.

[Mavrias]

These types of threads don’t really lead to much serious discussion and are filled with a lot of “lol bye” and “don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”. That and the OPs of these types of threads don’t really seem to stick around to discuss and like in this thread, some of their reasons are good, but others come across as being really specific to them and filled with more emotion than something that can be used as a serious topic of discussion.

Re-read his #5 reason and tell me that doesn’t sound dramatic.

i dont agree entirely with his point 5 although there are bits of it i can relate to. i for one would appreciate a lot of glamour items be gender unlocked, if only so that i could wear aymeric's coat and the male model for the flower crown on a viera.

then again i dont have to look at that from an unbiased standpoint because op prefaced that part of his post with "this is personal to me and i know a lot of people womt agree with it." amazingly opinions can have some sort of emotional backgrounds without being invalid.

why would OP stick around for a bunch of rude replies that boil down to "lol we all know you'll be back."

[Melichoir]

Pretty much dont agree with almost all your points. If anything, they read to me as if you have a lack of understanding what FFXIV is and are expecting (dare I say entitled) to more. FFXIV isnt a perfect game by any stretch of my imagination, but it offers quite a lot despite its short comings. You make a lot of assumptions based on your personal perspective and assume it applies to the entirety of the base. As an example, I played Diadem and Eureka is infinitely better in my opinion. I understand people may not agree with me on that, but thats ok. Each their own. However, what youre saying is Diadem was way better and everyone loved it and hates Eureka and no one plays Eureka. Eureka by no stretch is perfect, btw. I have my criticisms. But I think your point is overblown and a lot more people are more fine with Eureka than you like to give credit too. Pagos is a crap hole, I feel most everyone can acknowledge that, and the formula for Eureka was a bit shot broadly, but god, thinking its worse than diadem in my own opinion is a bit much.

Speaking of that entitlement I mentioned, your point 3 demonstrates this. It's pretty much "How dare they have a cash shop in a game I have to pay a sub for. It should all be GIVEN to me. Thats what the sub is for!"

Please.Get over yourself.

Your sub pays for the majority of the game and it's content, including all the stuff they give us for free on a fairly regular basis. You know, all those holiday events, and cross overs, and other misc quests and junk we get, but youre upset that some items are a cash shop exclusive. Lets think this through from your position: Do you REALLY think the player base would explode if all the cash shop items were available in game? AND, since the financial motive is a big part of the cash shop, do you think they would invest a whole lot of money in making even half the things on the shop if they were for free?

I dont have a problem with the cash shop because if something doesnt interest me, I dont buy it. And if something does, I weigh how bad I want it vs the cost. And if I still want it, I use the money I earn from having a job to get it. I pay for that service and have no qualms about it IF I decide to get it. If it's too expensive for my tastes, I accept that and wait for a sale or just forget about it. SE provides bonus content, I decide if I want to buy it or not, we make a transaction based that premise. Im not forced to buy anything on the shop. I dont understand why it's so terrible that we have to choose how to spend our money on extra small fun items. It's like going to a theme park and expecting all the food and refreshments to be totally free once inside. Or going to a movie theatre and expecting the soda and popcorn to be free with the purchase of your $8 matinee ticket.

You pay for extras a lot of the time. I dont get where this mentality comes from that people deserve it all when theyre just paying for the price of admission. You get all the rides for free, and they give us vouchers for free stuff often. But how dare they charge us for that churro!

Bleh, I think that point annoys me the most honestly.

Anyways, Id wish you luck in your future endeavors, but if this is anything to consider, youll run into this very same problem in any other MMO and youll just end up being dissatisfied there too.

[Hestzhyen]

Since a few things have come up...

I actually did take a break before coming to this consideration. I was on the edge by the end of 2018 so I decided to take a break for a few months and come back to wrap up the 4.x series. And when I came back I was again reminded of all the little things that stop the game for being fun for me. So this is a good-bye. There's genuinely a lot to love in XIV (wouldn't have subbed for 5+ years if there wasn't), but all the nagging imperfections have become a bigger problem than what I anticipated starting out all those years ago. I know the game won't change for me so I am saying farewell, good luck, and maybe if these items happen to get changed or improved upon I will become a paying subscriber again. (If SE had better options in their normal unsubscription process I wouldn't have resorted to posting on the forums about it... so sorry for those folks who were offended by me sharing. It will sift to the bottom of GD soon enough if you let it.)

I looked around for another MMO I could play with my SO but there was nothing that looked particularly compelling. XIV is probably the best there is in terms of quality and quantity so I have gone back to single player games instead. If I get the MMO bug again I will definitely check in on this game first.

And to add context to the whole cash shop thing- I've been playing games for 20+ years now. I know the age of buy it once and get it all forever is basically gone for AAA titles... game prices haven't gone above $60 for a long time but dev costs have skyrocketed so they have to make up the difference somehow. I just wish they weren't so predatory about it. XIV's shop is as tame as it gets compared to P2W upgrades, gacha bs, loot crates, season passes, etc. But the fact that there's no way to earn the stuff in-game really rubs me the wrong way. Even LoL, with it's absurd cosmetic prices, offers players ways to craft skins with time and some luck. SE could take a page from that to make it less jarring. Asking for ways to improve my experience isn't entitlement, it's giving feedback. SE has all the right in the world to ignore it and keep doing what they're doing since it's working for them, but since it's a pain point for me, I decided to say something about it. Heck I'd even pay a slightly higher monthly sub price if I could "rent" the cash shop stuff so long as that higher price was paid. But $20 for an outfit or mount? Get outta here.

Thanks to everyone who also shared their opinions and critique, hope you guys continue to find joy in Eorzea!

[kidalutz]

I agree with you on Eureka.

[Derio]

I agree with some of the things the OP stated. Especially the healer issues to where they had 4 years to balance.

I am not a healer main, but I do use WHM and SCH frequently and would have liked a new healer job to play in 5.0
Same to say if gunbreaker was a dps instead of a tank I would be very very angry at SE.

Regardless I would wait until May to announce if your quitting because we dont even have the job reveal yet.

[Iscah]

Actually, it's a direct counterpart to how Valentine's Day is celebrated in Japan. On Valentine's Day, a girl gives something like chocolate to a guy she likes, and on White Day (the RL version of Little Ladies' Day in-game) is when that guy has to give that girl a bigger gift in return.

That's something else entirely. Little Ladies' Day is based on Hinamatsuri, not White Day.

[Nyvara]

But how dare they charge us for that churro!

Wait, we can get churros on the Mogstation now?! Hell yeah!

[Arazehl]

You have sound reasons that personally apply to you to leave the game. It doesn't matter if I agree with them or not. If this is what pains you and you feel the only way to fix it is to step away, then I wish you the best.

[zeylos]

Lol bye bye.

Disagreed with each one of your points especially 5 and 7. points 5 7 made me very happy that you're leaving.

This person here (OP) has given extremely respectfull feedback that can greatly help SE which is also what this forums are for.
Ofc someone that's against male viera will insult anybody that wants them it seems (not everyone but there always seems to be one person)