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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    You should avoid Duty Finder if you don't like encountering players less skilled, less knowledgable or newer to content than you. The purpose of roulettes is to first match you with those queueing directly for dungeons (usually because they are new to them), so deliberately matching yourself with new players and then kicking them for being new is illogical.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha
    no one was able to show me within the context how the tank role is granted a certain level of entitlement that say a dps that refuses to aoe is granted.
    Tanks are historically rarer, so kicking them has long not been in the party's interest; it can work out faster to stick with what they've got even if the tank underperforms. The difficulty of finding a replacement tank is what makes them more valuable than other roles. Whether they are still that rare I don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha
    they pull others across the finish line, but the reality is you are leaving them open to an even harsher fall when someone gets sick of pulling them.
    How good they are is moot if it's Duty Finder and not extreme, savage or ultimate, because it just isn't meant to matter.

    They can be given this feedback if and when they actually choose to do extreme, savage or ultimate. There are also plenty of polite ways to give it.

    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
    They are a s*** tank if they can't handle this beyond 70, though. That's the whole point, a little flash spam and an occasional cooldown is all it takes. There's nothing to be afraid of. Even the necessary gear is included in the ilvl requirement to even zone in.
    What if they leveled their tank alt in POTD or used a jump potion for it? What if they started playing a month ago and cleared only the essential MSQ dungeons and avoided all of the optional ones, and only did small pulls in all of them? What if we add to this that they play more casually than you do for the story and don't bother with high-end content and high-end mindsets?

    Big pulls may be as simple as you make out but they are not experienced enough, confident enough or knowledgable enough to concern themselves with them. If you don't want to be paired with random tanks of varying skill levels, then you shouldn't use a matching system that matches you with people of varying skill levels.
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    Van Arn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    What if they leveled their tank alt in POTD or used a jump potion for it? What if they started playing a month ago and cleared only the essential MSQ dungeons and avoided all of the optional ones, and only did small pulls in all of them? What if we add to this that they play more casually than you do for the story and don't bother with high-end content and high-end mindsets?

    Big pulls may be as simple as you make out but they are not experienced enough, confident enough or knowledgable enough to concern themselves with them. If you don't want to be paired with random tanks of varying skill levels, then you shouldn't use a matching system that matches you with people of varying skill levels.
    What if they're an RMT bot? It doesn't matter if they leveled through potd, used a jump potion, or started a month ago. If they're past 70 and can't hang with their party's expectations, then the party can judge them terrible and they get the boot. Perhaps encourage them to run a lower-level bit of content that they can manage with the job they don't know how to play.

    And I'll continue using any system I desire, especially since the game has a safety features in place to ensure the button-averse cannot cause too much frustration.
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    Last edited by van_arn; 04-24-2019 at 02:49 AM.