FFXIV on Xbox?

[Ekinoxe]

It was on their website when it was announced a couple years ago. I can't find it now cuz they buried the crap out of it tho. I had it linked in one of the threads from back then.

Edit: found it

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2016/03/...x-updates-gdc/

Of course, it’s up to game developers to support this feature, and Xbox Live players will always have the option of choosing to play only with other Xbox Live players.

What you're talking about is more than likely a Squeenix quote from E3 2016 in which they claim that Microsoft supposedly didn't want to do crossplatform. Weirdly enough, 3 years later you have several game that are Xbox/Switch/PC/Mobile crossplay compatible. All those games are also available on the PS4 but they can only be played between PC and PS4 users, locking out every other platforms at Sony's request. So I would take that original Squeenix quote with a grain of salt. Either way, that's 3 years old info, which somewhat classifies as outdated.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

What you're talking about is more than likely a Squeenix quote from E3 2016 in which they claim that Microsoft supposedly didn't want to do crossplatform. Weirdly enough, 3 years later you have several game that are Xbox/Switch/PC/Mobile crossplay compatible. All those games are also available on the PS4 but they can only be played between PC and PS4 users, locking out every other platforms at Sony's request. So I would take that original Squeenix quote with a grain of salt. Either way, that's 3 years old info, which somewhat classifies as outdated.

That is from Xbox.com, from the head of the crossplay division at Microsoft. But sure, I'm wrong.

[Ekinoxe]

That is from Xbox.com, from the head of the crossplay division at Microsoft. But sure, I'm wrong.

That is actually the head of ID@xbox (independent developers publishing their games on xbox live). He's not the head of the crossplay division. That would be Phil Spencer. Either way, the article you linked just confirms that they never said that they didn't want to do crossplatform. Saying that players will always have the choice to play within the Xbox ecosystem for the then current lineup is a given. That's basically them saying don't worry, you won't forcibly be put in FPS lobbies with mouse users for example. Nowhere do they categorically say: "No we don't want you to be playing with PS4 users". Again, in the 3 years that followed that article, several games launched with cross console multiplayer.

What I was referring to is this https://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/17...rosoft-e3-2016 A quote which is in hindsight, pretty disingenuous on their part.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

That is actually the head of ID@xbox (independent developers publishing their games on xbox live). He's not the head of the crossplay division. That would be Phil Spencer. Either way, the article you linked just confirms that they never said that they didn't want to do crossplatform. Saying that players will always have the choice to play within the Xbox ecosystem for the then current lineup is a given. That's basically them saying don't worry, you won't forcibly be put in FPS lobbies with mouse users for example. Nowhere do they categorically say: "No we don't want you to be playing with PS4 users". Again, in the 3 years that followed that article, several games launched with cross console multiplayer.

What I was referring to is this https://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/17...rosoft-e3-2016 A quote which is in hindsight, pretty disingenuous on their part.

No, but it does say you can play with only Xbox players, which would mean that xiv would need Xbox only servers, which won't happen. Again, I never said Microsoft didn't want crossplay, I said they had restrictions

[Ekinoxe]

No, but it does say you can play with only Xbox players, which would mean that xiv would need Xbox only servers, which won't happen. Again, I never said Microsoft didn't want crossplay, I said they had restrictions

I know what you're saying. But what I'm saying is that those restrictions do not exist with the other games. Those restrictions only exist on the PS4. For example, Rocket League on PS4 was/is the only platform that couldn't play with other consoles because Sony didn't want them. Sony being extremely close minded when it comes to crossplay is common knowledge by now. So I'm asking you, what is more likely? Microsoft refusing to let other consoles mingle with theirs on FFXIV when they're fine doing just that with every other games, or Sony actually being the ones blocking the whole thing like they've done with every other games?

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I know what you're saying. But what I'm saying is that those restrictions do not exist with the other games. Those restrictions only exist on the PS4. For example, Rocket League on PS4 was/is the only platform that couldn't play with other consoles because Sony didn't want them. Sony being extremely close minded when it comes to crossplay is common knowledge by now. So I'm asking you, what is more likely? Microsoft refusing to let other consoles mingle with theirs on FFXIV when they're fine doing just that with every other games, or Sony actually being the ones blocking the whole thing like they've done with every other games?

OK, but that wasn't the point I was making. The point is microsoft also requires Xbox only servers, in addition to crossplay functionality. You can't have crossplay on Xbox without Xbox only servers. What sony is or isn't saying doesn't matter in this case, because SE will not put the game on a system that requires its own servers. It's all or nothing.

[Ekinoxe]

OK, but that wasn't the point I was making. The point is microsoft also requires Xbox only servers, in addition to crossplay functionality. You can't have crossplay on Xbox without Xbox only servers. What sony is or isn't saying doesn't matter in this case, because SE will not put the game on a system that requires its own servers. It's all or nothing.

They DON'T have their own servers! There's a toggle in the options menu to search for other players on the same ecosystem. A toggle option that is present on every version of those games accepting crossplay with other consoles. That toggle is on the switch, on mobile etc. It's up to the devs. None of those games have separate "Xbox Live" servers. Pretty sure that Microsoft's own game, Minecraft, doesn't even have that toggle at all.

[Gralna]

What you're talking about is more than likely a Squeenix quote from E3 2016 in which they claim that Microsoft supposedly didn't want to do crossplatform. Weirdly enough, 3 years later you have several game that are Xbox/Switch/PC/Mobile crossplay compatible. All those games are also available on the PS4 but they can only be played between PC and PS4 users, locking out every other platforms at Sony's request. So I would take that original Squeenix quote with a grain of salt. Either way, that's 3 years old info, which somewhat classifies as outdated.

And what do all of those xbox cross platform games that require xbox live to play have? That's right, option for xbox exclusive servers so xbox players can play only with other xbox players if they want, which is one of the guarantees xbox promises for xbox live subscribers. Yoshi has said flat out that he will not support that since he doesn't want to split the community.

[Ekinoxe]

And what do all of those xbox cross platform games that require xbox live to play have? That's right, option for xbox exclusive servers so xbox players can play only with other xbox players if they want, which is one of the guarantees xbox promises for xbox live subscribers. Yoshi has said flat out that he will not support that since he doesn't want to split the community.

That's actually entirely up to the developers. You know what those games also have in common? The total absence of the PS4 in the crossplay lobbies, again, at Sony's request. I mean come on, you can log in xbox live on your switch ffs, let's stop acting like it's Microsoft that's being stingy when it comes to FFXIV.

[jameseoakes]

That's actually entirely up to the developers. You know what those games also have in common? The total absence of the PS4 in the crossplay lobbies, again, at Sony's request. I mean come on, you can log in xbox live on your switch ffs, let's stop acting like it's Microsoft that's being stingy when it comes to FFXIV.

The only two issues we know blocking 14 on Xbox is needing a separate sub to be able to accesses the game and that Microsoft had wanted Xbox live players to have to option to only play with Xbox live players. I have never seen any official source say Sony was involved in any way in the process as of yet.