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    It just seems very odd if they really have put specific resources into making "fat cats" something widely accessible. It doesn't seem like something that would have enough draw to be worth the budget and the re-fitting of all the gear. It seems at odds with all the decisions they've made so far.

    Until more detail comes up, I'm more inclined to read their statements as "we made something interesting specifically for these MSQ characters" and not "we're letting players freely change the body shape of their characters".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It just seems very odd if they really have put specific resources into making "fat cats" something widely accessible. It doesn't seem like something that would have enough draw to be worth the budget and the re-fitting of all the gear. It seems at odds with all the decisions they've made so far.

    Until more detail comes up, I'm more inclined to read their statements as "we made something interesting specifically for these MSQ characters" and not "we're letting players freely change the body shape of their characters".
    As someone who is fat in real life I don't see why anyone would want a fat body shape for their character. Not only is it not pleasant to look at, trying to do battle or anything like our characters do in game would be bending the laws of reality even more than I'M comfortable with lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    As someone who is fat in real life I don't see why anyone would want a fat body shape for their character. Not only is it not pleasant to look at, trying to do battle or anything like our characters do in game would be bending the laws of reality even more than I'M comfortable with lol.
    That's my feelings on it too, but it seems like some people are excited by the prospect and want to see it happen. (Whether it's for that specifically or the as-yet-unsupported idea that we might get other body variations.)

    I don't think it makes sense for someone as active as the Warrior of Light to get that overweight anyway - even the mages are on cross-country hikes and need to be agile in battle. And it probably doesn't make sense with the (very approximate) time period either, unless they're lazy nobles like the fat cats have been described as.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I don't think it makes sense for someone as active as the Warrior of Light to get that overweight anyway - even the mages are on cross-country hikes and need to be agile in battle. And it probably doesn't make sense with the (very approximate) time period either, unless they're lazy nobles like the fat cats have been described as.
    it doesnt make sense for au ra girls to be half the size of the males along with a miriad other racial tomfoollery but here we are on moon logic island
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    As someone who is fat in real life I don't see why anyone would want a fat body shape for their character. Not only is it not pleasant to look at, trying to do battle or anything like our characters do in game would be bending the laws of reality even more than I'M comfortable with lol.
    You'd be surprised.

    Also fat people doing battle is bending the laws of reality? lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fland View Post
    Also fat people doing battle is bending the laws of reality? lol
    With the amount that our characters' bodies can already clip through themselves during certain poses... it possibly could be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    With the amount that our characters' bodies can already clip through themselves during certain poses... it possibly could be.
    Tbf Eastern vs Western weight standards are really different. I don't think we'd get to hit the level fat miqo'te do in the ShB trailer for example, particularly since they're specifically demonstrating how people on the First are diving into excess while the world falls apart around them. But i think we could get something around lalafell types of chubby but taller and with different proportions in spots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fland View Post
    You'd be surprised.

    Also fat people doing battle is bending the laws of reality? lol
    I just meant fat people get worn out more easily than a physical fit person. Also I was overly exaggerating
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    As someone who is fat in real life I don't see why anyone would want a fat body shape for their character. Not only is it not pleasant to look at, trying to do battle or anything like our characters do in game would be bending the laws of reality even more than I'M comfortable with lol.
    . . . . I have so many gaming news places to contact! "FFXIV players weight shame" :3 I jest!

    I'd never play a jiggly heavy character (because I want look stronk) but what I was hoping with the plump kittens was a new morph they developed. So to me it's not "yay I get to play overweight" but "oh my, did they just add the ability to add new sliders to their game?". Like in Skyrim you can fiddle with your character's details, and this can morph your armor a bit - I'm excited at the idea of fat cats because it might mean they've found a way to make our models have more wiggle room (jiggle room? eh eh? ). Like muscle slider that is actually 3d (vs texture).

    Of course as people point it, could simply be just a preset body shape with preset armor created for it (which means no new morphing tech for our character editors).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    As someone who is fat in real life I don't see why anyone would want a fat body shape for their character. Not only is it not pleasant to look at, trying to do battle or anything like our characters do in game would be bending the laws of reality even more than I'M comfortable with lol.
    Been a bit overweight following an illness (going down though!) so coming from that place too, honestly I think it depends a lot on degree? Way I figure it, whether it's skinny, muscular, or overweight this is a question of degree. If you go way too extreme in any of those directions it starts looking like a health problem and reads unpleasant to others. Short of extreme though, imo it's totally possible for someone who is overweight to still look nice. How clothing fits goes a long way toward accentuating different features and good hygiene/makeup/overall style helps a bunch. That said, prob that kind of race would run into similar critiques to what elezen receive. Gotta know how to manage proportions and different clothing fits to maximize aesthetic. It's basically hard mode of design haha.
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    Last edited by Jaywalker; 04-23-2019 at 06:16 AM.

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