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  1. #1531
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oreos View Post
    Bumping this to continue the discussion about Sightseeing Log Mage.
    So like, I want BLU unlocked more than anyone, but I genuinely think over the course of this thread, the discussion has been had. Theres a large following for BLU to get unlocked, and we've debunked basically all the counter points other than some people find limited BLU fun (which could be still had if they went for a Duty Set approach but still), honestly don't think theres much left to talk about. But trust me, when level 60 BLU is just more of the same, I'll be straight back here with smug grin. Unless its not and its somehow amazing and completely justifies limited jobs, and which point, I'll be damn impressed.
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  2. #1532
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    So like, I want BLU unlocked more than anyone, but I genuinely think over the course of this thread, the discussion has been had. Theres a large following for BLU to get unlocked, and we've debunked basically all the counter points other than some people find limited BLU fun (which could be still had if they went for a Duty Set approach but still), honestly don't think theres much left to talk about. But trust me, when level 60 BLU is just more of the same, I'll be straight back here with smug grin. Unless its not and its somehow amazing and completely justifies limited jobs, and which point, I'll be damn impressed.
    I think people bump the thread so SE will see it has activity and maybe do something about BLU, but now that BLU is in the game I think it's a lost cause. The only thing you could really do is affect future limited jobs. Hopefully by making it so there are no more limited jobs.
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  3. #1533
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    Somethings are worth fighting for. The only other way to show SE we don't support the content is to literally let the content die, but then SE will simply just not update it (Diadem, LoV) or we just unsub and speak with our wallets, which will speak louder than any "charts" will say.

    This is the most important issue going into ShB and further, because Limited jobs as we have seen so far and recent SE handling is more work than necessary for sub-optimal barely alive content.

    If people go apathetic, everyone loses. We should hold SE more accountable to poor gameplay decisions instead of focusing on graphics and aesthetics.
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  4. #1534
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    Considering how Male Viera thread has still been by far one of the most active threads here in the recent times, with both a larger view and post count that's still growing, I'm pretty sure BLU has as much right to stay on the front page.
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    Been using BLU a lot recently.

    Since I've been doing Zodiac books, so I need to spawn specific FATEs.

    So the best way is to run around the zone as BLU farming NM FATEs to give room for more spawns...

    Such riveting gameplay:

    FATE JOINED

    Doom *MISS* Doom *MISS* Doom *MISS* Doom *MISS* Doom *MISS* Doom *MISS* Doom *MISS* Doom *MISS* Doom

    FATE COMPLETE

    The only exception is Western La Noscea where nearly all the NM FATEs are immune to insta-kill spells (Though many of them like Barometz Soup, (I Just Died) In Six Arms Tonight, Tender Buttons and whatever that goblin one is called, can be done with 1000 Needles > Swiftcast > 1000 Needles)

    At least it's a reason to pull out that blue cape... Unlike, you know... Anything else in the game that could be doable instead >.>
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  6. #1536
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    I was just thinking and I wasn't going to start a new thread about it, so I'll just post it here instead. Was thinking how much of a missed opportunity not having BLU as one of the main Expac jobs is. For SB we had Hein repping SAM and Alisaie repping RDM.

    Going into ShB we could have had Alphinaud's new time to shine with him switching into BLU on the first to mirror Alisaie's RDM (and honestly the Cane style would suit him really well), plus the Hrothgar being called the Ronso on the first could of been the explanation as to how he learned the technique, as Ronso are basically a race of BLU's in FFX. Well I suppose they could still do this, but It would just rile up more salt.
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    Last edited by ReiMakoto; 05-09-2019 at 03:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    I was just thinking and I wasn't going to start a new thread about it, so I'll just post it here instead. Was thinking how much of a missed opportunity not having BLU as one of the main Expac jobs is. For SB we had Hein repping SAM and Alisaie repping RDM.

    Going into ShB we could have had Alphinaud's new time to shine with him switching into BLU on the first to mirror Alisaie's RDM (and honestly the Cane style would suit him really well), plus the Hrothgar are called the Ronso on the first could of been the explanation as to how he learned the technique, as Ronso are basically a race of BLU's in FFX. Well I suppose they could still do this, but It would just rile up more salt.
    I don't know...

    Alphinaud seems too competent to be BLU...

    MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS FULLY RESISTED

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  8. #1538
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    I unlocked it and never looked back, because I didn't see the point in leveling a job that can be used in exactly 0 content.

    So I support this thread. BLU was a waste of developer resources as a 'limited' job and we don't really need more 'limited' content.

    Don't think they would have all the spells they would need in dungeons? Dungeons don't seem to care whether we completed our job quests to queue, so...

    Yea whatever. Thread supported and bumped.
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  9. #1539
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elerus
    Prediction time:

    1. BLU will be released to widespread adoption. It'll be new content in a period where people are content starved.

    2. The class might see an initial downward tick in population, but it will be relatively minor. There are all manner of safeguards built into the experience to ensure retention. Eureka the job will have Eureka the grind built into it, I imagine the chance to learn monster spells will be lower than anticipated, and the bonus exp from world mobs will be relatively minor.

    3. Then people reach the Carnival and here's where it gets interesting: this will be the height of Blue Mage talk and engagement. It's designed to be the height of the experience - and here is where it will fail. In short order, a number of days if not less, a full and complete guide to the Masked Carnival is released. I cannot see Square designing a niche solo experience with the complexity of 25 Savage Mode raids. Most fights will be primarily about finding and grinding for that perfect spell to counter it. Furthermore, we'll have guides which boil the entire experience down to a recipe-list. Sure, one could opt not to spoil the experience, but people as a whole will.

    4. We will see the class numbers and engagement start to take a nosedive shortly after this. As the endgame BLU experience is turned into a checklist on Reddit and Square cannot keep up an endgame for everyone else and then the odd-kid out BLU's "custom content" quickly goes from Masked Carnival to Hidden Sideshow. There will be a trickle of content for it, but not enough to recover enthusiasm for the class nor enough to keep up with what everyone else is getting.

    5. There be a tiny community of Blue Mages, just as there's a small community that enjoys Verminion or Chocobo Racing. To those people, from me, hats off. No, seriously - I enjoy the PvP in this game which as I understand it makes me a bit of an oddity. Tragically, though, for most Blue Mage will be a quaint and curious sidetrack, something to be entirely ignored or at best endured when the occasional bone gets tossed its way.
    Lets revisit this predicition from the start of this thread.
    1-3 happened within the first week (or even few days) of BLU's release then 4 happened from then on to the point where getting BLU skill parties was a massive hassle just a week on.

    I guess we're existing in 5 right now, even though we haven't been thrown new content at all. Question is if this was so plain to see for a forum user before the thing was even out, how could this experiment have been conceived as a good idea.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYS0EeaAUMw

    My emotional state after reading the letter and the only mention of BLU was it not counting as a Job.
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