I just got kicked from a dungeon because of the sounds my Lala makes when she attacks

[TheLittlestLala]

I don't care about what you or I feel is right or wrong; if it's permitted (it is) then it's permitted.

The chat system "permits" people to advertise gil selling sites.

It doesn't mean it's actually permitted though. I refuse to believe you are actually not smart enough to realize this.

[DBriggs304]

I just don't get it... For the longest time, I would have thought a post like this was a meme post trying to get attention, but in the last year, I've seen so many people being straight up derranged when it comes to lalafells in the game. Making a popoto joke is one thing - haha, roundish small person is like a potato, we all laugh and move on....

But I've met some people that didn't just dislike lalafells - they HATE them. They hate the player models, they hate the sound effects - they most often hate the players behind them too. People saying disturbing things to random people in dungeons and the like...

Not in a "haha, I was just joking" sort of way, but like dude you need to talk to someone kind of way. Played a lalafell for a while (and a tarutaru way back in the day...) and never ran across anything super extreme like that, but I did get quite a lot otherwise.

Maybe they are trying too hard to be funny and it comes across wrong... But it's not funny, and it's not healthy.

Absolutely hope you reported them.

I've noticed a slight shift in the community as well. As the game grows, unfortunately we get some bad apples in what is usually a great community.

Everytime I see a "wow refugee" statement, I think to myself that that is the last thing we should want communitywise

[van_arn]

The chat system "permits" people to advertise gil selling sites.

It doesn't mean it's actually permitted though. I refuse to believe you are actually not smart enough to realize this.

Rmt is a separate issue, but does it really seem like rmt shouts aren't allowed in limsa? No, it's still going strong because square still permits it through their inaction.

Until the voting system is changed, which you have absolutely no reason to anticipate, you're left with the consequences of the current system: if two people want you gone, you're gone. This is absolute, implemented, and active in the game we play.

A gm night pretend to listen to you in a ticket, but they're not going to get you back into the party. Most likely they'll give you playstyle differences to stop the tears. If, by some absurd stroke of fortune, someone is actioned after your report it is likely going to come from harassment related to the kick in chat and never the kick itself.

Should have, could have, would have don't matter. If the party wants you gone, the party will find a way to get rid of you EVEN IF square disables voting entirely. Take the loss and find someone else if you're unwelcome in a party; you'll have a better time and won't waste some poor csr's time.

[Gralna]

Don't feed trolls and they'll eventually starve.

[TroySoFab]

Honestly, I got it from the mild third-degree I’ve received from you—as if my answer would magically change if you asked me the same question enough times:

Interesting recap of our conversation, however taking the position not caring if you are kicked from a party is pretty out there and I wanted to make sure I was understanding you correctly. If you feel this way its fine, but telling others that they should feel the same as you isn't. If OP wants to be upset about being kicked from a party improperly, she has every right to be. Just as you or anyone else has every right not to be.

I’m not bothered by you being bothered by this.

When no one in the thread is saying what that person did was okay or defending the kicker. I think everyone is in agreement that they were stupid for kicking someone for their character’s battle sounds.

But you are leaving out what started the discussion between the two of us. I stated that people were defending the action (and currently in the thread someone is still defending the kick) and told op to let her voice be heard. Looking back through your previous posts in the thread I saw no direct defense of the kick so I was a bit perplexed. My point being is that something about my post bothered you enough to start a discussion about it, which I think may have come from a misconception that I was initially referring to something you said.

You’re free to feel how you want. I am, however, bothered by you insisting that remarks like:

“Don’t let it bother you.”
“Don’t let it get under your skin.”
“Let it go and move on.”
“They aren’t worth your time”

Are the same as people defending someone doing something wrong, though.

It doesn’t take much to tell that these statements are not at all similar. If you cannot understand the difference between a statement basically meant to comfort/give peace of mind and a statement where someone is saying what the kicker did was okay, then again: I really don’t know what to say to you.

Not letting something bother you is not the same as “being okay” with it, but you seem to constantly equate the two in your counters.

Again you still haven't understood the point I was making, I'll try to put it as plainly as possible. Not doing something about a problem, and being okay with a problem both give the same effect, they allow the problem to continue occurring.

This is my last post because I think I’m close to hitting my posting limit for the day and this thread has gone on long enough with this tangent.

Agreed. I'll look forward to more spirited discussions

[WaterShield]

Interesting recap of our conversation, however taking the position not caring if you are kicked from a party is pretty out there and I wanted to make sure I was understanding you correctly. If you feel this way its fine, but telling others that they should feel the same as you isn't. If OP wants to be upset about being kicked from a party improperly, she has every right to be. Just as you or anyone else has every right not to be.






But you are leaving out what started the discussion between the two of us. I stated that people were defending the action (and currently in the thread someone is still defending the kick) and told op to let her voice be heard. Looking back through your previous posts in the thread I saw no direct defense of the kick so I was a bit perplexed. My point being is that something about my post bothered you enough to start a discussion about it, which I think may have come from a misconception that I was initially referring to something you said.







Again you still haven't understood the point I was making, I'll try to put it as plainly as possible. Not doing something about a problem, and being okay with a problem both give the same effect, they allow the problem to continue occurring.




Agreed. I'll look forward to more spirited discussions

Is that why politics is in the state it's in? Real world resonance with that statement.