I just got kicked from a dungeon because of the sounds my Lala makes when she attacks

[Hash_Browns]

Absolutely. The next time you see a tank in crafting gear, you are absolutely welcome to kick them and get someone else?

A tank in crafting gear is a bit different then a vote kick because I feel like it. You misses the point completely. We aren't talking about someone undergeared or under-preforming. We are talking about a kick for the sake of "f you".

[van_arn]

A tank in crafting gear is a bit different then a vote kick because I feel like it. You misses the point completely. We aren't talking about someone undergeared or under-preforming. We are talking about a kick for the sake of "f you".

If you have the votes, you have the kick.

That's the rule.

[TheLittlestLala]

If you have the votes, you have the kick.

That's the rule.

You are just being purposely obtuse. There is much more to the rules then that.

If there weren't then it wouldn't be possible to get banned for abusing votekick.

[van_arn]

So you'd be cool with two guys kicking you right before the final boss because their friend wanted to get a quick clear? Since according to you literally any reason to be kicked is justified.

Of course it doesn't matter what your answer is because in the end there are rules in place that SE made and you are not the arbiter of that matter.

Perfectly fine, because a majority of the party didn't want me there.

I'll kindly remind you also at not an arbiter.

I merely say what the game's systems say, and that is if you vote to kick someone you need someone else in the party to back you up for it to be considered justified.

Your kick was justified.

[LyraKuroneko]

If you have the votes, you have the kick.

That's the rule.

Because it is allowed musn't mean you should do it or abuse it. You are suppose to be old enough enough to judge that some things are wrong.

edit :

Your kick was justified.

If there are choices when you kick someone don't you think it's because it's gotta be one of those reasons?
I don't remember seeing, "I find it annoying''.

[Nonuel]

Perfectly fine, because a majority of the party didn't want me there.

I'll kindly remind you also at not an arbiter.

I merely say what the game's systems say, and that is if you vote to kick someone you need someone else in the party to back you up for it to be considered justified.

Your kick was justified.

That's not party majority though. Unlike every other game with a kick system, FFXIV doesn't give a voice to the person being voted on.

[van_arn]

Because it is allowed musn't mean you should do it or abuse it. You are suppose to be old enough enough to judge that some things are wrong.

If it is a problem, Square hasn't seen it as enough of a problem to fix it.

Therefore there is no problem to fix, and kicking someone goes through with one supporter.

You can argue morality and tit for tat, but the game systems are clearly defined and you resent that definition.

Don't blame me, blame what's ingame.

[van_arn]

That's not party majority though. Unlike every other game with a kick system, FFXIV doesn't give a voice to the person being voted on.

As defined, their opinion isn't considered. It doesn't matter.

[Hash_Browns]

Perfectly fine, because a majority of the party didn't want me there.

I'll kindly remind you also at not an arbiter.

I merely say what the game's systems say, and that is if you vote to kick someone you need someone else in the party to back you up for it to be considered justified.

Your kick was justified.

I don't understand why you are so adamant about "SE says so, so it's ok!"

It's not even the OPs story that I'm concerned with, it's the fact that you think that if I gathered a few friends in discord, and we painted the town red by kicking EVERYONE who was the 4th in our group during a night of dungeons that it would be perfectly normal an acceptable, and those people would just have to "suck it up" and move on.



"Obstruction of play
"Obstruction of play" means all behaviour in general that obstructs another person's game play. Below is a non-exhaustive list of examples of obstruction of play:

-Improper expulsion votion
This means excluding another person by manipulation of expulsion voting."

[Nonuel]

As defined, their opinion isn't considered. It doesn't matter.

It really should.