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  1. #101
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    Nyvara's Avatar
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    You'll always be welcome in any group I'm in! I adore lalas and lala tanks are the best tanks.

    Sounds don't bother me not even voice 6 Miqo'tes.
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  2. #102
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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    So you're saying that they should just accept the fact that someone else in their party hated their voice so much that they should be kicked out of a dungeon mid run? That's honestly just giving in to this bad mentality and is an (pardon my french) insanely asinine comment regarding the situation.

    I hope you're being sarcastic.
    But is he all that wrong? Blunt, yeah, but wrong?

    Yeah, some of the battle voices can be annoying to hear (mostly female lalas, but some other races have it bad too). Its an opinion of mine, and I am a lala myself! Depending on how things go, it can get grating but Ive never personally kicked anyone 'cause I just turn up some music and it becomes a non issue. But I dont think its wrong to point out that eyah, some people will find it annoying, and some people might kick you if its that annoying. Not saying thats great, but that is just how it unfortunately is a bit. It might be annoying or even frustrating, but maybe yeah, just accept it happened and move on. Cause frankly, it's not likely this will be a repeat issue unless the OP is doing something specifically to trigger this (like spamming the laugh emote).
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    So you're saying that they should just accept the fact that someone else in their party hated their voice so much that they should be kicked out of a dungeon mid run? That's honestly just giving in to this bad mentality and is an (pardon my french) insanely asinine comment regarding the situation.

    I hope you're being sarcastic.
    Sarcasm? No. They got kicked, so what? You can either whine and moan about it making a minor inconvenience look like the end of the world or you just shrug and move on. You will have just wasted 10-15 minutes of your time. If I made a big deal of everything and reported it like OP did, I wouldn't even be playing the game anymore. I would just post here complaining and reporting people in game.
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  4. #104
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    Thurien Storme
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    I hate when my Male highlander is a bard. He sounds like he needs to take a big poop. UNGH, ARGH, HAAaRGH. Thankfully I main RDM I would hate to be kicked for making poop sounds.
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  5. #105
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    Noitems Ever
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    Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
    But is he all that wrong? Blunt, yeah, but wrong?
    Yes, he is. Imagine if you were playing with me and my group of friends in a dungeon, and I had the thought of kicking you for the very same reason pop up in the middle of the run. Not because you weren't playing your job correctly, were afk, messed up mechanics too often, but simply on the grounds that your voice annoyed me. You think it's a stupid complaint but the vote dismiss goes through, all your time and energy wasted for running that content simply because of a personal opinion that didn't effect the gameplay.

    The moment you justify(even if by the tiny bit) allowing people to kick others simply because of a voice they don't like you're only adding to the problem no matter how small you think it is. Because the moment one person does it and says "It was just this one time. haha" then everyone is going to have that same mindset and do it the same. It would be a constant back and forth to the GM's over stupid issues like this when there are far more important issues to deal with.

    From the OP's story they only used the emote twice, both relating to the situation of the character dcing and returning. If the emotes were spammed constantly (without reason) and the OP was told to stop and they didn't this would be a much different conversation and I would be a little more understandable for the kicker but still of the OP if they were just playing the game properly.

    The fact of the matter is the OP was just playing the game and the kicker viewed their voice (when playing said game) as annoying and kicked them out mid dungeon simply for that reason alone. It's a waste of time for the OP and they shouldn't be subjected to that when they are just playing the game using ingame options. I'm sorry if I'm being really adamant on this issue but I view this whole thing is disrespectful.
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  6. #106
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    Of course people here on the forums would defend the the offender's actions. Stay strong OP, and let you voice be heard!
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  7. #107
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    Quote Originally Posted by AxlStream View Post
    Sarcasm? No. They got kicked, so what? You can either whine and moan about it making a minor inconvenience look like the end of the world or you just shrug and move on. You will have just wasted 10-15 minutes of your time. If I made a big deal of everything and reported it like OP did, I wouldn't even be playing the game anymore. I would just post here complaining and reporting people in game.
    I'm glad you're totally okay with justifying kicking people for no reasons tied to them actually playing the game, and is simply based on an option you have the power to adjust on your own.

    But you've absolutely turned me over a new leaf and I've seen the light. So now I don't feel bad kicking you out of a 40+ min alliance raid run because I simply don't like how your character yells midbattle. Glad we had this talk. /s
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    Last edited by Noitems; 04-19-2019 at 01:42 AM.

  8. #108
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    I'm glad you're totally okay with justifying kicking people for no reasons tied to them actually playing the game, and is simply based on an option you have the power to adjust on your own.

    But you've absolutely turned me over a new leaf and I've seen the light. So now I don't feel bad kicking you out of a 40+ min alliance raid run because I simply don't like how your character yells midbattle. Glad we had this talk. /s
    I'm fairly certain AxlStream isn't saying the behavior is okay. It was a stupid thing to do, and whoever kicked the OP is probably as foolish as his actions.

    Pretty sure he's saying that the OP should just shrug things like this off because they aren't that important. People like whoever kicked the OP from the party aren't worth the time of day; they aren't worth a second thought. And if they were petty enough to kick over voice sounds, what else would they have been petty over if the OP hadn't been kicked? I'd consider a blessing - that dungeon run could have been riddled with problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Yes, he is. Imagine if you were playing with me and my group of friends in a dungeon, and I had the thought of kicking you for the very same reason pop up in the middle of the run. Not because you weren't playing your job correctly, were afk, messed up mechanics too often, but simply on the grounds that your voice annoyed me. You think it's a stupid complaint but the vote dismiss goes through, all your time and energy wasted for running that content simply because of a personal opinion that didn't effect the gameplay.
    Personally, if it were me in this situation you've described, I'd laugh at both you and your friends for acting like petty children. I've learned you don't need to make a fuss over fools; they bring the roofs down on themselves after a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by TroySoFab View Post
    Of course people here on the forums would defend the the offender's actions. Stay strong OP, and let you voice be heard!
    Saying "let it go and just move on" isn't the same as saying "what that guy did was great/okay/excusable".

    I feel for the OP. But letting it go would be the best thing. No need to get upset about it. If you wanna report/blacklist, go ahead. Make a post in the Tales of the DF thread just to vent. But don't let it ruin your day.
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    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 04-19-2019 at 01:54 AM.
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  9. #109
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    Melichoir's Avatar
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    Desia Demarseille
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Yes, he is. Imagine if you were playing with me and my group of friends in a dungeon, and I had the thought of kicking you for the very same reason pop up in the middle of the run. Not because you weren't playing your job correctly, were afk, messed up mechanics too often, but simply on the grounds that your voice annoyed me. You think it's a stupid complaint but the vote dismiss goes through, all your time and energy wasted for running that content simply because of a personal opinion that didn't effect the gameplay.

    The moment you justify(even if by the tiny bit) allowing people to kick others simply because of a voice they don't like you're only adding to the problem no matter how small you think it is. Because the moment one person does it and says "It was just this one time. haha" then everyone is going to have that same mindset and do it the same. It would be a constant back and forth to the GM's over stupid issues like this when there are far more important issues to deal with.

    From the OP's story they only used the emote twice, both relating to the situation of the character dcing and returning. If the emotes were spammed constantly (without reason) and the OP was told to stop and they didn't this would be a much different conversation and I would be a little more understandable for the kicker but still of the OP if they were just playing the game properly.

    The fact of the matter is the OP was just playing the game and the kicker viewed their voice (when playing said game) as annoying and kicked them out mid dungeon simply for that reason alone. It's a waste of time for the OP and they shouldn't be subjected to that when they are just playing the game using ingame options. I'm sorry if I'm being really adamant on this issue but I view this whole thing is disrespectful.
    Yeah, it happens. Ive been kicked from dungeons by people trolling. Or heres a specific example: I was in Orbonne Monastery once where A group continuously and purposefully wiped on the third boss so that the reset timer would pass and theyd get credit on the new day. I got two choices: Complain about it, get pissed and ruminate on it, or after a moment shrug and find another instance and not let it get to me. The fact is that there are disrespectful jerky people, and they will kick you from parties for any reason they want. It happens. Rather than wasting time and energy on being angry about it, its better to say "screw those guys" and just requeue. Its not productive to sit back and let it live in my head rent free. Ive got more important things to think about and spend time on, like being a better player and tank, rather than thinking about how unjust some jerks can be.

    If people want to spend their time being angry about situations like the OP, ok. I see that as being even more a waste of time than getting kicked from a dungeon over frivolous reasons, cause unlike the latter, I have control over the former and what I do following that.
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    Last edited by Melichoir; 04-19-2019 at 01:56 AM.

  10. #110
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    The fact of the matter is the OP was just playing the game and the kicker viewed their voice (when playing said game) as annoying and kicked them out mid dungeon simply for that reason alone. It's a waste of time for the OP and they shouldn't be subjected to that when they are just playing the game using ingame options. I'm sorry if I'm being really adamant on this issue but I view this whole thing is disrespectful.
    I definitely agree it's wrong/disrespectful and it would be upsetting to most people if they were in OP's situation, but the line I'm trying find for myself is whether this is a reportable offense or not. I take getting reported and losing my account very seriously. I do agree the vote-kick-commencer should've handled the situation better as they had the ingame tools to do so (volume settings) but the vote kick system is designed (its not perfect) to prevent abuse. 1 person can't vote kick, it has to be a majority. So should both voters be reported? How do you confirm which 2 voted against you? do you report all of them just to cover all bases?
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