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  1. #101
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    Canadane's Avatar
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    Oh I am blind and thought this was about the normal attack, not the big draw in one half way through.
    Just time your warp strikes better.
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  2. #102
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    adalovegirls's Avatar
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    Ada Lovegirls
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    Cactuar
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    Astrologian Lv 66
    I've tried this about 6 times. Still can't get it. First 3 or 4 times were before reading this thread. I tried warping at the last second, twice, didn't work. First time, the warp animation started, but I died right before warping. Tried warping right before, didn't work. Can y'all that are whining and saying other people just suck and that you're perfect maybe realize that your experience isn't universal? Also, that it's okay for people who aren't as skilled to enjoy playing games too? That would be nice.

    EDIT: Oh look, I tried with my PLD another time (SAM before) and I survived the blast fine, but Noctis died 10 seconds after. This battle is just poorly designed. You can't rely on the player to heal Noctis, because not all classes can heal well if at all, and apparently the AI isn't good enough either, because he shouldn't be dying. Also, it is BS to either require using a tank, having a character level 60 or higher so you have enough HP to not be one shot by her attack there, or having sub-one second accuracy on a warp to avoid dying.
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    Last edited by adalovegirls; 04-18-2019 at 08:45 AM.

  3. #103
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by adalovegirls View Post
    EDIT: Oh look, I tried with my PLD another time (SAM before) and I survived the blast fine, but Noctis died 10 seconds after. This battle is just poorly designed. You can't rely on the player to heal Noctis, because not all classes can heal well if at all, and apparently the AI isn't good enough either, because he shouldn't be dying. Also, it is BS to either require using a tank, having a character level 60 or higher so you have enough HP to not be one shot by her attack there, or having sub-one second accuracy on a warp to avoid dying.
    It honestly comes down to having the right class/ability combo and I wouldn't even say that it's a tank. If a dps is doing their rotation properly and is able to heal at least a little bit the fight should be over before Noctis dies with time to spare. I won't go as far as saying "git gud" because that's not really what I'm trying to say. I'm mostly just trying to say that people need to use what is available to them. If they don't have what would be helpful then they should probably take the time to get it. If dps is lacking then maybe looking up a guide or hitting a training dummy might help too. The fight is largely a dps race. Again, I'm not saying to get good. I'm suggesting that people could, and should, be resourceful.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 04-18-2019 at 08:56 AM.

  4. #104
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    Berteaux_Braumegain's Avatar
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    The suction goes off six times, I think. Try to prep Warp Strike right as the sixth one starts and you should get free of the damage range.
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  5. #105
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 96
    I did the fight on RDM and War, and I had no problem on either of them.

    When you warp out of the aoe, you have to warp back with Noctis, hitting Garuda at a similar time as Noctis does, to get the "Link Strike!" for extra damage. Other than that, just try not to hit Noctis too much with the Aoes, and stack with him (I stacked infront of him, not sure if that would make a difference though) for the line stack marker.

    Noctis's HP kinda acts like an enrage timer, if you avoided getting him killed by not stacking with him, and/or dropping too many Gravity puddles on him. You have to do your dps rotation, as well as using the warp mechanics.

    I am playing with 180+ ping, and I was able to avoid the aoes.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 04-18-2019 at 09:05 AM.

  6. #106
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    Esp's Avatar
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    Espikes Darkwind
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I did this fight 3 times now, my main and two other alts, and had no problem at all using the warp strike on the monliths.

    Jobs used were DRK on my main, SAM on one alt, and MCH on another. It all comes down to timing.

    Be sure your focus targeting Garuda and watch the cast bar. Right after that last draw in, warp strike away and you will take very minimal damage. xD

    I have no idea how people are getting Noctis so low on health though. With those circle AoEs, are people baiting them to the outside of the arena? I know the AI will just plow into those and take damage..so maybe that's it?
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    Last edited by Esp; 04-18-2019 at 09:17 AM.

  7. #107
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Esp View Post
    I did this fight 3 times now, my main and two other alts, and had no problem at all using the warp strike on the monliths.

    Jobs used were DRK on my main, SAM on one alt, and MCH on another. It all comes down to timing.

    Be sure your focus targeting Garuda and watch the cast bar. Right after that last draw in, warp strike away and you will take very minimal damage. xD

    I have no idea how people are getting Noctis so low on health though. With those circle AoEs, are people baiting them to the outside of the arena? I know the AI will just plow into those and take damage..so maybe that's it?
    I honestly never had any issues with his AI. I died to Microburst several times before I got the timing down, but Noctis handled AoEs just fine.
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  8. #108
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    Hasrat's Avatar
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    The suction goes off six times, I think. Try to prep Warp Strike right as the sixth one starts and you should get free of the damage range.
    This was pretty much the key for me. Trying to mimic Noct is just asking for failure if you're not lucky enough to have the timing down. The draw in doesn't do damage, and the skill has a pretty clear charging cast bar, so just hold off to warp out right before it actually goes off.
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  9. #109
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    WaterShield's Avatar
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    Lalah Elakta
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    This was pretty much the key for me. Trying to mimic Noct is just asking for failure if you're not lucky enough to have the timing down. The draw in doesn't do damage, and the skill has a pretty clear charging cast bar, so just hold off to warp out right before it actually goes off.
    The reason I advised doing it the way I did... is because if you use warp strike just as you start getting drawn in... it "breaks" the draw back before you even get into range of her aoe. So if you do it timed right for every pulse (or at least for the last couple learning from the first few pull pulses) you end up well outside of danger and take no damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by adalovegirls View Post
    I've tried this about 6 times. Still can't get it. First 3 or 4 times were before reading this thread. I tried warping at the last second, twice, didn't work. First time, the warp animation started, but I died right before warping. Tried warping right before, didn't work. Can y'all that are whining and saying other people just suck and that you're perfect maybe realize that your experience isn't universal? Also, that it's okay for people who aren't as skilled to enjoy playing games too? That would be nice.

    EDIT: Oh look, I tried with my PLD another time (SAM before) and I survived the blast fine, but Noctis died 10 seconds after. This battle is just poorly designed. You can't rely on the player to heal Noctis, because not all classes can heal well if at all, and apparently the AI isn't good enough either, because he shouldn't be dying. Also, it is BS to either require using a tank, having a character level 60 or higher so you have enough HP to not be one shot by her attack there, or having sub-one second accuracy on a warp to avoid dying.
    Would you look at that. Advise is being looked at as "GIT GUD" once again. SMH
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  10. #110
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    Rowde's Avatar
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    Character
    Willig Rowde
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Yeah I've completed the fight all 8 of my chars now:
    Did it as SMN(2 tries), PLD(1 try), WHM(3 tries), AST(1 try), DRK(1 try), SCH(1 try), AST(1 try), WAR(1 try)
    After I figured out the timing for "Micro Burst" (the big attack with the draw-in effects), had zero issues with subsequent fights.

    I wrote last time that I "thought" it was 6 draw-ins, but now I can confirm that it absolutely is 6 AND only the last one matters. You can actually DPS through the first 5 (as long as you are counting) and then Warp to a monolith immediately after the 6th and run THROUGH the monolith to get behind it and avoid the big AoE dmg. If the timing is tripping you up, you can run towards the monolith after number 5 and then WARP immediately after you see you character begin to get pulled in. Don't wait for the animation to resolve, you can use warp while your character is sliding.

    If Noctis is dying, then he's getting nailed by too many AoEs... which is kind of on you. Make sure to stack with Noctis for the Line AoE marker that gets centered on him AND be careful wit the dancing red arrow Stack Marker that occurs too. If Noctis is doing his air combo he'll be moving around a bit so you'll actually have to effort a little to stay stacked with him. Other than those two specific instances... you should never be stacked with Noctis otherwise, try to stay on the opposite side of the boss from him so all AoEs get baited away from him.
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