One hope for ShB

[Kydi]

Please, please, please can stances all be oGCD. Playing as PLD or DRK and having to use a GCD to change is just frustrating and makes them feel horrible and clunky.

Following closely, can we just have a stance swap ability, rather than a separate skill for each? I can't imagine a single occasion where I don't want to have a stance on at all (DRK being the slight exception) but losing gauge if you accidentally hit Defiance instead of Deliverance is just annoying g.

[shao32]

You don't lose gauge anymore with WAR or PLD since ,4.1-4.2?

For the rest yeah, loosing a entire GCD and resources (MP) on top of that it's pretty ackward and clunky and I hope stances get rid of it in SHB, I mostly expect several adjustments on stances, not only removing his cost but improving they utility in optimization.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

They're referring to double clicking where you're in deliverance for example with gauge built an accidentally click deliverance a second time removing the stance thus losing all your guage

[shao32]

Oh I see, yes I forgoth about that, yeah that's a bit annoying but it can be solved with practice or don't having both skills keybinds so close to each other, but yes I understand that feeling.

I guess SE can separate the gauge from stances so that's not a problem in the future.

[Kydi]

Indeed the accidental double click. I've had a couple of instances where a brief lag spike has made it appear that the change hasn't gone through so next GCD I've tried to swap again only for it to then lose the stance entirely.

WAR is the only tank which feels "nice" right now because you can chop and change with ease.

[kidalutz]

Theres some problems with the logistics of OPs idea but I will agree some things should be baked together to save space Sentinel and Bulwark for instance could just be baked into one button so when Say Sentinel ends Bulwark Kicks in Or The like I wouldn't necessarily force certain combos into a stance change however but I would take the stances off of global cooldown.

[Xenosan]

I don't mind as much on DRK after MP change (though GCD cost is punish enough), but would be nice if I didn't have to wait 66% into the GCD wheel-spin to deactivate the action.

PLD imo making their stances oGCD would be a good thing. It's a bold move, but at this point in the game life I don't think its a game breaker.. Just punish PLD with 10+ second recasts on the stances, and increase MP punish that can throw off Holy Spirit. Oath should be accured though both blocking AND auto-attackss regardless of stance (not just one or another). Just as WAR should get parry+ AND crit+ via Wrath regardless of stance, and DRK have access to Blood Weapon AND Blood Price regardless of stance.

Their effects are inconsequential to an extent that there's no reason for them to be conditional or feature gated.

[Jandor]

They're referring to double clicking where you're in deliverance for example with gauge built an accidentally click deliverance a second time removing the stance thus losing all your guage

That is kind of annoying.

I hope PLD and WAR stances are consolidated into one button, no reason to ever not be in a stance.

[Ekimmak]

That is kind of annoying.

I hope PLD and WAR stances are consolidated into one button, no reason to ever not be in a stance.

As long as both stances are available, at least.

Staying out of defiance is worth it as WAR when you get synced down to 50, since that's the closest to Deliverance you can get. (It does have a bit of a TP drain from not having Inner Beast/Steel Cyclone, but that's going out the window in ShB)

[Rollout]

That is kind of annoying.

I hope PLD and WAR stances are consolidated into one button, no reason to ever not be in a stance.

I want the DPS stance to be a passive that's always on, unless you turn on tank stance, which replaces it.
That way, the tank is always in either a DPS stance or a tank stance.