Gender locked race?

[Senn]

Yoshi P already has an idea for what Male Veira might look like, and he knows if the fans design something *other fans* will be upset their design wasn't chosen.

This is true. If male viera does get implemented into the game, I want it the way Yoshi P described them. Too many people want different things. At the end of the day, the design should be left up to the devs. I'll be happy if we get them at all.

[Eoko]

This is true. If male viera does get implemented into the game, I want it the way Yoshi P described them. Too many people want different things. At the end of the day, the design should be left up to the devs. I'll be happy if we get them at all.

At the end of the day a design contest would be finalized by the dev team, meaning they could hand pick the ones they most wanted to do anyway, and the finalists would be voted on, meaning the majority of the community that cares about the addition would be the ones deciding which one is most desired. Who cares if people cry that their version didn't get picked? We do the exact same thing for hair, and armor. Why should it be different for a race? Having the majority of people's voted winner be what goes into game results in an actual, factual number of how many people will undoubtedly be happy.

Do I think they could screw up the Viera males? Not really. Do I think they would screw up the Hrothgals? Pretty sure they would. If Yoshi P is worried that the fans will not like their idea of Viera males, or is concerned with how people would feel about the other gender in general, majority rules is the way to do it. Employ some democracy and show the fanbase how seriously you take their feedback and their commitment to a cause.

One of the major problems people are bringing up is that these decisions have gone against player feedback, and their own statements in the past. The development team is pulling away from player input, and people are seeing it in a very negative light. A design contest, which already has precedent, over a feature that is clearly very important to people, is not something to be tossed aside because someone's feelings is going to get hurt. You could have the contest have zero other "prizes" and people would still contribute because this is an important cause.

I know I would certainly enter it on the Hrothgal side. Would I be miserable if we got some miqo'te clone with an animal head because that's what most people wanted? No. Because that's literally what most people wanted. The people that cared enough to vote for it. The development team messed up, because they wanted to appease two massive player requests and didn't have the resources to pull them off in full. These sorts of threads are the consequence of that decision. Every time they are asked why they did it, or when they are adding the other genders, is a consequence of the decision they made. It doesn't matter how many times they answer anything other than "we are going to" or "we are never going to". Until they commit to a decision about implementing the other genders, they will never escape the questions. People still ask about the egi glamour. And this is far, far more important than egi glamour.

If he's concerned about how people will take a decision, then he needs to ask the people. It's that simple.

[Beki_Bayaqad]

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There are always complainers, and the western audience are really really vocal whiners. Why else is our fourm the one with multiple race lock threads blu complaining threads, insane/silly class update threads, and general moaning and complaining threads opposed to other language boards. Not pointing any fingers honestly.

[Senn]

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Yoshi P already has a vision for male viera. I think we should respect that design decision should male viera ever be added to the game. That's all.