Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Theodric]

lol
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Please post constructively. I'd hate to see this thread locked because some of you are more interested in harassing specific posters.

[MrKimper]

I've only been firmly against anything that is genuinely and objectively unsettling. Furthermore, I've stated that I'm more than fine with Viera men being on the more bestial side of the spectrum. I'm not entirely certain why that keeps being left out of the debate in regards to my contributions to this thread, though I can hazard a few tentative guesses as to why that may be.

Not true, unfortunately I wish you had been but you haven't, a lot of your dislikes tend to not be aimed at childlike models(Like alphinaud or young elezen) but simply any form or sort of slim or beautiful looking male viera, which for some reason you seem to think a vocal minority seem to be "pushing" rather than people simply expressing preferences. Also this doesn't really have anything to do with you being vocal about your like or dislike of bestial Viera, but rather how quickly you feel the need to derive anything to do with "Beautiful" Viera as rather creepy or disturbing to you, whether they look tall and old or short.

Again I think it's rather hypocritical to call out(What I'm assuming you see as a majority) of this thread as trying to push an image and stamp out other opinions when you've behaved in a similar method(Outside of people being truly objectively creepy and wanting child models. Which i thank and respect you for.)

I also think it's pretty hypocritical to say someone is downplaying a certain mindset/opinion when a lot of the posts (previously anyway) were just upset with the both snide and insulting remarks you've made towards posts not depicting minors! seems rather two-faced and disingenuous but that's just me!

Edit: That being said I think I'll respectfully not continue this discussion as I'd rather not breed an air of negativity!

[Cerat]

Snip!

I’m just going to clarify that I never once had implied that the poll was current or showed that there wasn’t a demand for Hrothgar/Ronso-like races and even said that imo they would count under the Mammalian Demi-Human section even if they are more beastlike. I simply posted the poll that someone asked for because they hadn’t seen it. the fact of the matter is tho, no matter what race is second highest demand, they knew that people wanted Viera most. Personally I have an alt that is going to become a female Hrothgar the minute they’re available, if they’re available (please SE) so I understand personally that people would like a bestial race!

[Senn]

Please post constructively. I'd hate to see this thread locked because some of you are more interested in harassing specific posters.

This isn't harassment though. It's just ironic.
Refer to MrKimper's post.

[Theodric]

This isn't harassment though. It's just ironic.
Refer to MrKimper's post.

It quite clearly is. You're both being deceptive in an effort to paint me as a hypocrite or perhaps you're both simply misinterpreting my past posts and there's no malice involved? Either way, I'm not particularly interested in arguing with either of you, though - so I would request that you either put me on ignore or at least cease to make deceptive, defamatory accusations. I could dig through the thread to find a number of posts from each of you to twist to suit an agenda, though I'm not that petty and it wouldn't be at all relevant to what this thread is about - the inclusion of Viera men in the future.

So I would ask that everybody focuses on that rather than lashing out at specific posters as it ensures a pleasant and civil atmosphere. I thank you both in advance for your cooperation in such an endeavor as I don't doubt that you will both agree to keep the peace.

[Senn]

at least cease to make deceptive, defamatory accusations.

You first.

So I would ask that everybody focuses on that rather than lashing out at specific posters as it ensures a pleasant and civil atmosphere. I thank you both in advance for your cooperation in such an endeavor as I don't doubt that you will both agree to keep the peace.

I'm not lashing out at you. I just want you to be civil. I've already said it's ok for you to post about how you want a classically handsome body type. At the very least, you should extend that same courtesy to the people who prefer a slim body type. I'm not even talking about the hummingway esque viera at this point.

[Theodric]

You first.

Please stop trying to further derail the thread by seeking to get the last word in. As I said, I'm not particularly interested in arguing with you. I'd much rather spend my time relaxing after a long day with a nice cup of tea and some Mozart playing in the background. I'd recommend it as an excellent method for diffusing tension!

I'm not lashing out at you. I just want you to be civil. I've already said it's ok for you to post about how you want a classically handsome body type. At the very least, you should extend that same courtesy to the people who prefer a slim body type. I'm not even talking about the hummingway esque viera at this point.

I don't have an issue with 'slim' physiques. At no point have I suggested as much. I do, however, have a major issue with child-like characters - which is what I have been pushing back against.

Regardless, it seems the best course of action would be to agree to disagree so I suggest that we do as much. Are we on the same page in that regard?

[Senn]

Regardless, it seems the best course of action would be to agree to disagree so I suggest that we do as much. Are we on the same page in that regard?

If you stop implying terrible things about people, then yeah.

[MrKimper]

Actually was it ever stated if the hares the garleans took were male or female? or are they just assumed female?

[Theodric]

If you stop implying terrible things about people, then yeah.

There isn't anything particularly controversial about me calling people 'creepy' for asking for child-like characters and referring to them as 'sexy' and confessing a desire to dress them up in inappropriate, revealing outfits. Some of the artwork that has been posted - and has since been removed - has also pushed the boundaries of what would be considered to be suitable for polite society.

Again, as I said in recent posts I'm not interested in arguing. You're free to agree to disagree though I suspect tone policing is something best left at the door for everybody's sake.

Perhaps it's simply a misunderstanding on your part, but to be crystal clear let me point out that I have no issue with slim characters. So long as they resemble adults rather than children or young teenagers.

I'll confess, I don't particularly care for the idea of Viera men being androgynous or feminine either, but that's a matter of personal taste on my part.