Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Kelryth]

@dorupu1707
https://twitter.com/dorupu1707/statu...42268375830529


not sure if this one has been posted yet.

[Halivel]

One more art. I will just post link:
https://twitter.com/tksnim_art/statu...788987392?s=19

[Kelryth]

etroveria

http://etroveria.tumblr.com/post/183...iera-will-come


Ebony Viera mod for Noctis FFXV Windows Edition.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfil...?id=1694356942

[Kelryth]

This is it exactally




https://twitter.com/wharfratinel/sta...10125198647296

[Beki_Bayaqad]

I'd like to believe that lore was hastily rewritten after the... feedback to be ambiguous enough to "justify" both the lack of mViera/fHrothgar at launch, and the possibility of adding them in the future.

The veira lore has been in place since FFXII way back in 2008. Before that Male Veira literally didn't exist.

This is it exactally




https://twitter.com/wharfratinel/sta...10125198647296

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LEAVE TWITTER OUT OF THIS ISSUE, WE DO NOT NEED THE GENDER POLICE FROM THAT HIVE OF TOXICITY WEIGHING IN ON THIS ISSUE.

[WhiteArchmage]

The veira lore has been in place since FFXII way back in 2008. Before that Male Veira literally didn't exist.

I really don't get your point, XII lore only mentions Male and Female Viera living "separately" in different villages, only making contact when the need arises. Nothing about lower birthrates, or defenders of the forest, just isolationist and not inhabiting the same area of Golmore that we go through (and the Viera we DO see in Golmore are in the part that's blocked until Jote lets us through), and since we need Fran to even go inside Eruyt, it'd be downright impossible to go to a Male village

These are not the same Viera as Ivalice so the XIV team can and has rewritten the Viera Lore.

[Lauront]

Well since this has turned into a Hrothgar thread I might as well say my piece. The whole "breeding slave" thing that people are implying can be easily explained away if they simply say they have similar breeding habits as cats. Cats have a pregnancy period of around 2 months and breed on average 4-5 per litter (Lets say 5 for easier math). We know that male Viera are considered rare on a 1-5 ratio, so lets assume female Hrothgar follow the similar pattern.

200 females and 800 males for a total population of 1000. Now if every female gets pregnant with one man and has 5 children then they doubled the population. 200 x 5 = 1000.

The lore that we know of Hrothgar is literally the racial description. Does any of the races description on the character creator have their breeding habits enlisted? Is that the first thing people look for before making a race?

I also think the breeding slave thing is amiss, but say we're talking about a ratio of 4:1, the replacement rate for a modern population (not subject to such vagaries of life as famines, plagues etc.) is 2.1. Even without making allowances for the population dying off at a higher rate than a modern population (or, on the opposite end of that, having the need to sustain an ageing population), they'd probably need to have 10-15 children apiece to sustain their population. So I agree that the key factor here is the litter size. Otherwise that'd be an awful lot of time spent pregnant and then rearing the young. I think it's fair to assume they have fairly large litters, in that case.

Personally, I'm not too big a fan of these out of whack sex ratios, but I agree that it doesn't necessarily imply they're bound to be having kids their entire life. Maybe 1-2 large litters, and that's it.

[Kelryth]

The veira lore has been in place since FFXII way back in 2008. Before that Male Veira literally didn't exist.



FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, LEAVE TWITTER OUT OF THIS ISSUE, WE DO NOT NEED THE GENDER POLICE FROM THAT HIVE OF TOXICITY WEIGHING IN ON THIS ISSUE.

He says toxically.



no, i will post from twitter if I please. Go somewhere else if you don't like it.

[ScorpioShirica]

as a gender police from twitter, i would also like some bunny bois.

[Beki_Bayaqad]

I really don't get your point, XII lore only mentions Male and Female Viera living "separately" in different villages, only making contact when the need arises. Nothing about lower birthrates, or defenders of the forest, just isolationist and not inhabiting the same area of Golmore that we go through (and the Viera we DO see in Golmore are in the part that's blocked until Jote lets us through), and since we need Fran to even go inside Eruyt, it'd be downright impossible to go to a Male village

These are not the same Viera as Ivalice so the XIV team can and has rewritten the Viera Lore.

Let me requote what I quoted since you apparently missed what I responded to.

I'd like to believe that lore was hastily rewritten after the... feedback to be ambiguous enough to "justify" both the lack of mViera/fHrothgar at launch, and the possibility of adding them in the future.