Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Nalfein]

I know most people who spam the thread are interested in feminine/petite male Viera

Fixed that for you.

[SoothingPaws]

I don't understand why people is pushing for a playable male Viera so much. It's not the first time Square-Enix done a gender locked races look at Mithra and Galka in Final Fantasy XI.

[Senn]

Fixed that for you.

Not untrue, but a one sided observation nonetheless.
There are people who spam the thread who are interested in buff viera.

[Laphael]

I don't understand why people is pushing for a playable male Viera so much. It's not the first time Square-Enix done a gender locked races look at Mithra and Galka in Final Fantasy XI.

Well, this is 2019 and everyone wants everything and wants it right now.
And of course, if they don´t get it right away, that is a personal insult against them...

That said, most posts here are reasonable and supporting something in a calm way is a good thing.

There are just some ppl that completely ignore that we are getting 2 new races, 1 for each gender. It often sounds like SE took something away from them, and thats not the case.

[Duskane]

what ever design they stick with ill just be happy they are in.

[Nalfein]

Not untrue, but a one sided observation nonetheless.
There are people who spam the thread who are interested in buff viera.

Unecessary fight, why not request male Viera and let the devs do the trick, I'm sure they'll do their best.

[Senn]

Unecessary fight, why not request male Viera and let the devs do the trick, I'm sure they'll do their best.

This isn't a fight, though. Just a disagreement.
As for your last part, I do agree with that. I've already said I would like male viera the way Yoshi P envisions them. Although I do have my preferences, at the end of the day I'll take whatever it is the devs cook up. That being said, there's nothing wrong with people discussing what type of male viera they would like to see, buff or slim.

edit:
I wanted to add that we should all respect Yoshi P/the devs design even if male viera isn't up to your preferences. I'll be happy if we even get them.

[Emmanellain]

I don't understand why people is pushing for a playable male Viera so much. It's not the first time Square-Enix done a gender locked races look at Mithra and Galka in Final Fantasy XI.

Basically, a lot of people who grew up with SE games have seen male Viera as a mystery since 2006, and a lot of us hoped for an exclusive FFXIV take on it that would be playable.
Yoshi P said back when ARR just came out that the gender locks in 1.0 was bad design, and that they moved away from that principle altogether, which they have followed until now.
They used the Viera as an example when doing a poll over which races players would like back when deciding the races for ARR, it had the highest percentage, clearly showing the demand for the race.
They showed concepts back in 2.0 showing they had considered Viera for a time before moving to Au Ra. (males included in design)
They implemented Male Viera lore into the game during the ivalice raid series.
Yoshi P showed up with a bugs bunny shirt. bugs is male (it's a bit of a stretch but I'm adding it here anyway.)
After the reveal of the female Viera when they were asked about the males they pointed to the in-game lore - and then hinted at Tokyo FanFest right before pre orders launched.

Then come Tokyo FanFest 2019 they show Hrothgar when almost everyone expected male Viera.
Now thanks to people requesting it, they've announced that they're open for feedback. So Male Viera and Female Hrothgar posts will probably become a constant request on the forums until they happen or we get a concrete no from SE.

As a sidenote:
The claims of sexism by a loud minority etc. mostly stem from this which I find ridiculous but I'm just gonna amass as much scources into this for future readers.
Do correct me if I'm wrong and I'll edit the message accordingly.

[BillyKaplan]

So Male Viera and Female Hrothgar posts will probably become a constant request on the forums until they happen or we get a concrete no from SE.

On the forums, in Q&As, on PLLs, in conventions, in interviews...
If they thought people were annoying about unlocking the bunny outfit, WOO BOY.

[Emmanellain]

On the forums, in Q&As, on PLLs, in conventions, in interviews...
If they thought people were annoying about unlocking the bunny outfit, WOO BOY.

To be completely honest, their marketing team should've probably poked Yoshi on the shoulder and whispered "you know, this might create a new demand for female Hrothgar, and people will just want male Viera more"
If genderlocking gearsets was a hotbutton issue, locking genders will create even more outrage.
Especially when the "we don't have previously existing reference" won't cut it when they've already created concepts people have raved about since 2.0, and the original Viera creator even gave them his blessing.
Heck the "Hrothgar came first" explanation has been shot down as well, as Yoshi is saying they came first, then indirectly saying they were intended to replace male Viera after making the female Viera.

"We did consider Male Viera instead of adding an extra race, but we tried to take player feedback on adding a more beast like race as well as the strong desire to receive Viera. We did expect strong feedback on the gender lock. It was a tough decision, but we decided to do our best to meet both the player feedback and our development team’s vision. It will be very costly to add a new race or genders. So I won’t say no, but I would not like to set expectations high." - Yoshi P

You'd think as a company SE would take advantage of the mystery surrounding male Viera, as old players who played alongside Fran in 2006 and other Viera games onward might want to see what the males are like and pick up an MMO for the first time. That and, well, handsome/cute races have the highest play rate in this MMO.