Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Senn]

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This thread has mostly been positive.

[xbahax92]

In space, where do you think? Posts in every thread I've read about this topic range from "the dev's should know better, I'm unsubbing" to going so far as calling them "sexist" and "homophobic" over this.

Yea, the same old posts that are being brought up by the same people.
Just like the same people that love to bring up "ERP", "the lore!", people that try to redefine "genderlock" and also "my immersion!" to counter people.
Im getting tired of them as much.
I mean there are both sides of extremists, and I do not support any of them.

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Also, not to be rude or anything, but Im sure they got their hands full already with the upcoming expansion. And devs also have a real life, give them more time. Beside, stressing people can also turn the opposite way, meaning no to opposite genders.

[Kallera]

When is the benchmark supposed to be released? I think I remember the devs giving feedback earlier, but not all work schedules are equal, there might be something else involved with the decision.

[Joven]

I mean, to some people it is, and that's fine. People have different priorities and reasons why they play the game.



Then you have the lost costs of Fantasia. Lost costs of glamours that would've been bought for those new races. People not ubsubbing but refusing to give money to the Mogshop until this is changed...
Saying the only money SE stands to lose over this is from unsubbing, and that those numbers to begin with would be small, are strawman arguments. There's a lot of money riding on this and no one has the statistics regarding subs and other purchases outside of SE.

Anything in the Mogshop is optional to begin with, you're not required to buy anything from there so any sales made is just pure profit. They lose nothing if people don't buy anything.

[BillyKaplan]

pure profit. They loose nothing if people don't buy anything.

They lose... pure profit. And from what we hear, the Mog Shop is the one source of revenue that comes back into the game while the sub money gets leeched by SE to fund other things. So XIV itself loses a lot if people don't buy from the Mog Shop. Especially since Mog shop items are:
1. one time investment that keeps netting them revenue. Mounts, Bardings, glamour, they make them once and just keep cashing in on it
2. Consumable. Dyes, Fantasia. They have long since stopped investing in the items and just enjoy the money it makes.
That's a lot of $$$ they'll be losing out from people who are upset over it, yes, even if those people are still subbed. But their sub money probably won't go back into XIV to begin with.

[Halivel]

When is the benchmark supposed to be released? I think I remember the devs giving feedback earlier, but not all work schedules are equal, there might be something else involved with the decision.

May, most likely.

[Duskane]

this thread is more for the support to add male viera (and obviously female hrothgar) most of us know that it takes a lot of work and time
very minimal demands in this thread

people who come into this thread with just idea of "such entitlement,whiners" etc etc really have the wrong idea the entire purpose of this thread

[Joven]

Yea, the same old posts that are being brought up by the same people.
Just like the same people that love to bring up "ERP", "the lore!", people that try to redefine "genderlock" and also "my immersion!" to counter people.
Im getting tired of them as much.
I mean there are both sides of extremists, and I do not support any of them.

I don't support either side myself. If they decide to release them then great, if they don't, also great. But threads like this one are pointless. The devs haven't said anything about never releasing the other genders, just that they decided to release what they could with what time they had. Making a huge fuss over it like we're NEVER going to get them before we even get the first release is petty.

I would also like to state that there is a huge distinction in the severity of argument between bringing up lore, ERPing, etc over calling a company sexist and homophibic. The latter could actually do harm to the company's image if enough people believed it while the former is just annoying.

[Emmanellain]

They lose... pure profit. And from what we hear, the Mog Shop is the one source of revenue that comes back into the game while the sub money gets leeched by SE to fund other things. So XIV itself loses a lot if people don't buy from the Mog Shop. Especially since Mog shop items are:
1. one time investment that keeps netting them revenue. Mounts, Bardings, glamour, they make them once and just keep cashing in on it
2. Consumable. Dyes, Fantasia. They have long since stopped investing in the items and just enjoy the money it makes.
That's a lot of $$$ they'll be losing out from people who are upset over it, yes, even if those people are still subbed. But their sub money probably won't go back into XIV, to begin with.

At this point I'm desperate enough to pay for the male Viera as a pre order purchase (aka. a pack) on the mogstation if that would help the monetary part of development. (heck they could do the same for instanced housing aka. elder scrolls just cheaper)
Because I'm more than certain FFXIV's sub money is going towards the 7 remake and other projects, or funding marketing for kh3 but that's pure speculation. Yoshi needs more money and a bigger team, and SE needs to start prioritizing FFXiV more if they are to catch the WoW players that will be looking for a new mmo to play.

[Joven]

They lose... pure profit. And from what we hear, the Mog Shop is the one source of revenue that comes back into the game while the sub money gets leeched by SE to fund other things. So XIV itself loses a lot if people don't buy from the Mog Shop. Especially since Mog shop items are:
1. one time investment that keeps netting them revenue. Mounts, Bardings, glamour, they make them once and just keep cashing in on it
2. Consumable. Dyes, Fantasia. They have long since stopped investing in the items and just enjoy the money it makes.
That's a lot of $$$ they'll be losing out from people who are upset over it, yes, even if those people are still subbed. But their sub money probably won't go back into XIV to begin with.

Then that's entirely SE's fault for not allocating the money properly. If they were using all the sub money to work on the game then there would be little to no fluctuation in profits lost for people unsubbing for this since you also have to factor in new players coming in.