Quote Originally Posted by Belhi View Post
I don't think it helped that a lot of the reveals happened after Fanfest when things like us going to the First were already known. It would have been a much bigger twist if we didn't already literally know that.

I wouldn't say it isn't fluid per say because frankly we haven't seen the Shadowbringers half. There is a limit to what they can do at this point as we are still on the source. The need to go to the first isn't without context however. Finding a way to beat the Ascians while avoid a Flood of Light has been a problem we have had no solution too since we found out it was a problem from Albert in 3.4.

As for Zenos, I am afraid if you don't like him much I have a bad feeling that after Shadowbringers will bother you. My hunch is he is going to become a much greater antagonist in the expansion after Shadowbringers which is when I suspect we will deal with Zenos properly. I think it is very likely he will end up on his father's throne.
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That's absolutely the case regarding the timing of this patch. If 4.5 had come all at once instead of being divided, and so we didn't know what we know now, the reveal of Crystal Tower at the end would have been a huge bomb drop moment.

It's true we haven't seen the Shadowbringers intro yet, but I'm thinking about how ARR ended with us in Coerthas and a goal of going to Ishgard, and HW ended with the Shinry and Baelsar's Wall stuff and knowing full well war was around the corner. Someone else mentioned it earlier in the thread, but right now we're kind of just left hanging with a "what's next?" and it feels weird compared to the last two expansion endings. It's not necessarily a bad spot to leave us at, but in comparison to the last two it's just out of place. I don't hate it or anything.

Regarding Zenos, I'm also prepared for basically what you said. The thing is I just don't think he's very compelling. Maybe they can turn that around for me, but right now all I see is two-dimensional blood knight. "I love fighting, the thrill of the hunt" is basically the only aspect of his personality. And as things stand right now, with EleZenos having done nothing since his introduction, it feels really unnecessary to have him be revived at all.