The "Wow Refugee's" impact on the FFXIV Community?

[ReportMe]

WOW truly wasn't expecting this much activity on my first post thanks guys!! Keep the comments coming I really enjoy seeing the differences in the communities.

[ReportMe]

I'm glad to see that most share your thought on this! Like stated below every game has its nice and toxic players and FFXIV seems to do a good job of weeding the toxic ones out. (Or at least making them less outwardly toxic)

[ReportMe]

Truth is, i think, the toxic player base is always more visible on the highest end game content. It’s where everyone feels it’s all a race for BIS and will hate on anyone making the slightest mistake.

The coolest thing this game has, is that content patches don’t just focus on the high end game. You get lots of side content to pursue, just for fun, and wirh a lot more lasting appeal (since BIS becomes obsolete anyways.)

I think one of the biggest things that shocked me was seeing just a "simple" patch update for both Wow and FFXIV. I think this is a great thing for anyone that may be thinking that the dev teams for the games "cant be that different" Its just unreal compare the patch notes of the last BFA update and the last FFXIV update. The Wow update took me maybe 10-15 minutes to read and the FFXIV on well... Im gonna need some more coffee to finish it.

[kamikrazy]

I think one of the biggest things that shocked me was seeing just a "simple" patch update for both Wow and FFXIV. I think this is a great thing for anyone that may be thinking that the dev teams for the games "cant be that different" Its just unreal compare the patch notes of the last BFA update and the last FFXIV update. The Wow update took me maybe 10-15 minutes to read and the FFXIV on well... Im gonna need some more coffee to finish it.

Its beyond pathetic how WoW has so many more players and devs working on it, but that this game with a fraction of the budget and developers pumps out more and better content at an unbelievably faster rate. 14 months of siege of orgrimmar lol.

[grinkdaboy]

the only thing i didn't like coming from wow to xiv was the glamour system. like, the glamour closet doesn't come anywhere as close as convenient and useful as the transmog system. get an item's appearance once, and it's yours forever. but in xiv, you need prisms and have a limited storage space.

[The-Real-Link]

New players are always good; welcome to Eorzea!

That being said as others have mentioned, while this is an MMO, this is not WoW. I have played WoW since late Cata (started raiding in Mists) since I had been on FFXI prior, and also started FFXIV since 1.0 / beta so a decent veteran to both games. While many things are familiar, some things do work differently here so being polite and asking questions is a nice way forward. While FF does have some comparable things to WoW (Transmog=Glamour), (Crafting being well. there to = Crafting being challenging, fun, and useful), (Mythic+=Closest comparison could be Deep Dungeon high floors perhaps), some things are different such as a rich story driven MSQ, raiding sizes, casual alliance raids, side quests, flying, beast tribe / daily factions and rep, and some totally new to FFXIV such as Eureka and Arsenal.

What I'd suggest for someone from WoW personally is to take their time, not judge it compared to WoW but treat the game as its own entity and enjoy the ride. Watch the cutscenes and enjoy yourself.

[Liam_Harper]

Its beyond pathetic how WoW has so many more players and devs working on it, but that this game with a fraction of the budget and developers pumps out more and better content at an unbelievably faster rate. 14 months of siege of orgrimmar lol.

I think FF has a few fundemental flaws to iron out.

WoW has (used to have) far better, more fluid, reactive combat. WoW has tons of QoL that we can't have due to "server limitations", better glamour, better mount tab, better minion tab, the toy box (I loved the toy box), crafting from your bank, all bank space and mobile app and alts are free. WoW has add-ons too, which is a big thing. Both games have fairly bleak initial leveling, but 3 buttons at level 30 with a 2.5sec GCD takes the cake. That said, I still believe FF14 is the better game now. FF14 feels like an MMO, WoW feels like a facebook game and they've been shredding their QoL and combat the last few expansions.

FF has the potential to nab WoW's players, but the game just doesn't give a good enough first impression. Jumping over from a lv120 with fast combat to 3 slow buttons, clunky retainers and 50 fetch quests for Titans dinner puts players off.

The other big one is that FF14 isn't built for success. They do not have the server capacity for even a 100k spike in player interest, never mind nabbing a million of WoW's 5 million players. They don't advertise or invest in upgrades for a large spike in players. They seem content to simply sit on what they've got.

[Dyvid]

Generally people will conform to the community they enter. True you'll always have a small percent that doesn't but that is the exception rather than the norm.

[Fhaerron]

Its beyond pathetic how WoW has so many more players and devs working on it, but that this game with a fraction of the budget and developers pumps out more and better content at an unbelievably faster rate. 14 months of siege of orgrimmar lol.

Fraction of budget and developers?

Activision has next to World of Warcraft also a few other games. The're also firing 800 developers and the newly appointed CEO just get's 15 million.
Activision doesn't invest more money in their MMO, they just funnel that money to their own CEO's.

[Imuka]

The only thing, that keeps the 14 toxicity a bit in check is the lack of PvP in this Game.
But outside of that we have the same toxicity here like in WoW. It's not a Lol or Overwatch Level, but we have also enough toxic Idiots in this Community.
But we have our "Fail = Kick and Blacklist" Players for Years. Our horrible toxic Raiders who see everybody who does not have +90% Parses as Trash.
The Players pushing for Yoshi and blaming him for raiding being ruined.
I would not call it ruined, but they tried to make Raiding a Midcore Content, instead of makign real Midcore Content and now we have two Parties who not feel super happy with Savage.
Even the nice Raiders say, that it feels to easy for them outside of Ultimate and I can understand them.
And the Midcore Players who always wished for something like Mythic Dungeons get told that now Savage is made for them. It feels weird, like there is a Content planed for everybody but wished by nobody.

Its beyond pathetic how WoW has so many more players and devs working on it, but that this game with a fraction of the budget and developers pumps out more and better content at an unbelievably faster rate. 14 months of siege of orgrimmar lol.

You don't want to know how many Devs and how much of the Budget Activision-Blizzard took way over the Years from WoW.
I would even say, that their Budget could be around the same as 14 and they also struggle to keep up with all the things WoW added over the Years. It's like you were a Company with 1000 people doing 100 things and now they are just 400 and need to Update all the things those 1000 did back then.
I am pretty sure, that Activision-Blizzard took several Millions of WoWs Budget away to pay for the Overwatch League and all that crap around this Bubble of being the biggest ESports in the World.
If I would need to guess, they at least paid half a billion Dollars just for Marketing for Overwatch and keep on burning Money for that and this is paid by the WoW Subs.

Activision has next to World of Warcraft also a few other games. The're also firing 800 developers and the newly appointed CEO just get's 15 million.
Activision doesn't invest more money in their MMO, they just funnel that money to their own CEO's.

Boby the Devil Kotick. One of the most overpaid things (I refuse to call him a Human) in the world.

the only thing i didn't like coming from wow to xiv was the glamour system. like, the glamour closet doesn't come anywhere as close as convenient and useful as the transmog system. get an item's appearance once, and it's yours forever. but in xiv, you need prisms and have a limited storage space.

I will always love the WildStar Glamour System. There were no limits what you could wear from the Gear, except that you could only pick the Weapons from your own Class for the Glamour.
But that was okay using a Pistol as a Sword would have looked super weird. ^^
You wanted to wear the heavy Armor of a Engineer? Just drop it on the Plate, pick a Color, close it and pick the Plate from your Characterscreen...done, be happy.
Only in PvP they were deactivated to make it not possible to hide your true Class in the Game.
I absolutly loved being able to wear those long and heavy Coats of Classes like the Engineer as a Spellslinger.

I will always wish we would get a Housing System like in WS for 14.
The Houses we have at the moments are nice, but there are not enough for everybody and real instanced Housing could solve so many Problems.
As long as it is fun and not like the Appartments, because they are horrible.