Viera males should be smaller like Au Ra females

[Tsumdere]

This, I'd rather we just let them decide the body types at most, musing is one thing but it could be off putting to see this thread up along with the regular male viera thread. Could give them the impression "These guys don't know what they want!"

I agree. I think asking for various kinds of male Viera is not going to do the cause any good. Yoshi-P and co already had a vague vision it sounds like from their interviews (using Elezen body for an elegant and slim race), let it happen.

[MPK]

I know this is fantasy and all but I mentioned before, not every male is 6 to 7 feet tall. I would like a race to represent the short to lower average height male and if we are not going to get any more new race the male viera would be a great opportunity.

There's height sliders in this game

[Gwenorai]

There's height sliders in this game

Yeah, but height sliders don't do much of anything if we're shoehorned into a race/gender that is small right from the get-go. I really hope they don't go the au'ra dimorphism route. I hate it on that race and I'm going to hate it on this one if they decide to add it. Not a fan of playing overly small characters, max height male Miqo'te being my cut off point. In all honesty, I don't even think female au'ra should be kept at that height and I hope with an extension to the character creator they can be made even taller.

I just hope they go with basic Hyur height with a scale that goes either way.

[AmaroLeBlanc]

Here, take my humble support.

(Also, male hrothgar should be more lithe and less roe-like, just sayin')

[Halivel]

Yeah, but height sliders don't do much of anything if we're shoehorned into a race/gender that is small right from the get-go. I really hope they don't go the au'ra dimorphism route. I hate it on that race and I'm going to hate it on this one if they decide to add it. Not a fan of playing overly small characters, max height male Miqo'te being my cut off point. In all honesty, I don't even think female au'ra should be kept at that height and I hope with an extension to the character creator they can be made even taller.

I just hope they go with basic Hyur height with a scale that goes either way.

I'm sorry, but with basic Hyur height there will be this exact dimorphism which you hate, almost same level as for Au Ra. Females Viera are tall and if I remember correct they are about Roe height or something (but we will see in benchmark quite soon). Males could likely have Elezen height from this point or same with females.

[Gwenorai]

I'm sorry, but with basic Hyur height there will be this exact dimorphism which you hate, almost same level as for Au Ra. Females Viera are tall and if I remember correct they are about Roe height or something (but we will see in benchmark quite soon). Males could likely have Elezen height from this point or same with females.

Basic hyur height is the average height; for the midline. I hate dimorphism yes, but I want the average height to be the midline where the maximum height is the same as the females and the likes. I honestly just think the height restrictions should be thrown out of the window - within reason - and for the player to decide how tall their character should be. Since that's not doable now I figured the average height of a hyur with a wide height range from small - miqo'te small - to tall - same height as females - would satisfy both crowds until they update the character creator to have a much wider range.

If the males are the same height as the elezen or the females, that will be fine with me - as yeah, Dimorphism is irritating.

xD I hope I explained it clearly, I don't know I'm not the best with words.

[Umeikoai]

That image is not canon, it's a mix of 2 diferent images... even if it was , it's about a head, just a difference between individuals... again, feol aren't vieras, please, don't counter a single part of a whole statement made for clarity of a previous one...

But Feols are Vieras. A subrace is a part of that race all together. Hilde is still a hyur even if she has pointy ears. She has the exact same features of a hyur down to her height and face. Just because someone is mixed doesn't make them not that race. A chug is a still a pug and a chihuahua that is still a dog. And since your bringing up individuals, I don't see how there can't be a possibility that male vieras can not be shorter than a female. I'm not saying they have to be Lalafell short. Peter Dinklage is still male, he's still shorter than a most woman, and he's an adult and still a human. Height isn't a concrete thing. There are height sliders for a reason. I don't see there being a problem with Male Viera able to be shorter than a Female Viera nor do I see there being a problem for Male Viera being taller than a female Viera. It's up to the individual. There's 2 clans for a reason and they should utilize it or else we wouldn't have Midlander or Highlander. A Female Highlander can be taller than a Male Midlander but they are both Hyur. People act like Height sliders in this game cause so many problems but they really don't. It is literally just an entire model character up/down scaling. Look at the largest Lalafell compared to the smallest Lalafell. No proportions are changed, one's just bigger overall. So it doesn't even effect rigging or clothes.

[Renik]

But Feols are Vieras. A subrace is a part of that race all together. Hilde is still a hyur even if she has pointy ears. She has the exact same features of a hyur down to her height and face. Just because someone is mixed doesn't make them not that race. A chug is a still a pug and a chihuahua that is still a dog. And since your bringing up individuals, I don't see how there can't be a possibility that male vieras can not be shorter than a female. I'm not saying they have to be Lalafell short. Peter Dinklage is still male, he's still shorter than a most woman, and he's an adult and still a human. Height isn't a concrete thing. There are height sliders for a reason. I don't see there being a problem with Male Viera able to be shorter than a Female Viera nor do I see there being a problem for Male Viera being taller than a female Viera. It's up to the individual. There's 2 clans for a reason and they should utilize it or else we wouldn't have Midlander or Highlander. A Female Highlander can be taller than a Male Midlander but they are both Hyur. People act like Height sliders in this game cause so many problems but they really don't. It is literally just an entire model character up/down scaling. Look at the largest Lalafell compared to the smallest Lalafell. No proportions are changed, one's just bigger overall. So it doesn't even effect rigging or clothes.

Then i don't konw why are we arguing lol, I already said it's ok for them to be able to be shorter than females as long as it's and option and they can get up to the same max height as females, please read the full post.
Also i'm not gonna post here anymore as we have the other thread for feedback, just posted this to give you an answer.

[Umeikoai]

Then i don't konw why are we arguing lol, I already said it's ok for them to be able to be shorter than females as long as it's and option and they can get up to the same max height as females, please read the full post.
Also i'm not gonna post here anymore as we have the other thread for feedback, just posted this to give you an answer.

I just think Square Enix needs feedback at least in Threads that is relevant to it. If they decide to add Male Viera they have a lot to go off of because it's not tied to a deadline or anything. They already reached their deadline with trying to implement new races. Now they can just take their time on other things while figuring out how to do a male Viera if at all. If anything it could be good that they didn't add Male Viera considering how rushed Hrothgar look. Now they can provide more options than less.

[Melichoir]

But Feols are Vieras. A subrace is a part of that race all together. Hilde is still a hyur even if she has pointy ears. She has the exact same features of a hyur down to her height and face. Just because someone is mixed doesn't make them not that race. A chug is a still a pug and a chihuahua that is still a dog. And since your bringing up individuals, I don't see how there can't be a possibility that male vieras can not be shorter than a female. I'm not saying they have to be Lalafell short. Peter Dinklage is still male, he's still shorter than a most woman, and he's an adult and still a human. Height isn't a concrete thing. There are height sliders for a reason. I don't see there being a problem with Male Viera able to be shorter than a Female Viera nor do I see there being a problem for Male Viera being taller than a female Viera. It's up to the individual. There's 2 clans for a reason and they should utilize it or else we wouldn't have Midlander or Highlander. A Female Highlander can be taller than a Male Midlander but they are both Hyur. People act like Height sliders in this game cause so many problems but they really don't. It is literally just an entire model character up/down scaling. Look at the largest Lalafell compared to the smallest Lalafell. No proportions are changed, one's just bigger overall. So it doesn't even effect rigging or clothes.

Im more intrigued by the fact that Im as tall as a lot of these actors (if not taller). Weird perceptions and camera trickery, I still thought most of these dudes were atleast 5"10+.