Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[BiddyBatnana]

SE won't be making a new body type so you'll be stuck with any of the pre existant ones if they include male Viera.

I woud go for Au ra or Miqo'te, but with new animations.

[BiddyBatnana]

Well seeing how even the Viera wont be able to wear head gear from the start, how low quality some of the Ronso faces look (and that is the most important part on that race..), how Viera and Ronso have normal feet and how they seemingly did not have Ronso ready to show at the second fanfest...sounds quite rushed to me.

That's the case. They rushed both races.

[yukito90]

i really want to wear every single head gear in the game, at least event/mogstation one!!!!!!!!!!

[Emmanellain]

i really want to wear every single head gear in the game, at least event/mogstation one!!!!!!!!!!

You probably will in time, it's just a painstaking effort to make it fit with the ears/horns
I'm sure they'll hire an intern to permanently sit there and just fix helmets all day for a couple of years or something lmao.

[yukito90]

You probably will in time, it's just a painstaking effort to make it fit with the ears/horns
I'm sure they'll hire an intern to permanently sit there and just fix helmets all day for a couple of years or something lmao.

I hope so... I really want to change to viera without lose all my payed gears like halo or something like this :/ (no male viera, no head gear.. community might thik this is an beta race)

[BillyKaplan]

how they seemingly did not have Ronso ready to show at the second fanfest...

You know what the funniest thing about that is? If they had shown male Ronso in Paris, and then female Viera in Tokyo, there would still have been an explosion about the genderlocking but not of such epic proportions, I don't think so. Because a lot of it stems from wanting to play Viera. So when the females were confirmed, expectations shifted to male Viera.
Had they shown male Ronso in Paris, there would've been broken expectations regarding female Hroth. But I think that by then, knowing we already had the male slot taken, people would've prefered to hype over playing any sort of Viera and it would've built up the excitement instead of bursting it.

Still genderlocked, still no Viera males or Hroth females, but all things considered, I think showcasing Hroth males first and then female Viera would've given them not as bad a playerbase explosion.

[Emmanellain]

You know what the funniest thing about that is? If they had shown male Ronso in Paris, and then female Viera in Tokyo, there would still have been an explosion about the genderlocking but not of such epic proportions, I don't think so. Because a lot of it stems from wanting to play Viera. So when the females were confirmed, expectations shifted to male Viera.
Had they shown male Ronso in Paris, there would've been broken expectations regarding female Hroth. But I think that by then, knowing we already had the male slot taken, people would've prefered to hype over playing any sort of Viera and it would've built up the excitement instead of bursting it.

Still genderlocked, still no Viera males or Hroth females, but all things considered, I think showcasing Hroth males first and then female Viera would've given them not as bad a playerbase explosion.

I agree, especially since male Viera have been a mystery since they were first established in 2006. So people got super hyped over getting a FFXIV exclusive version that you could play even.

[Alleo]

Still genderlocked, still no Viera males or Hroth females, but all things considered, I think showcasing Hroth males first and then female Viera would've given them not as bad a playerbase explosion.

It would imo also make more sense if his answer is correct and they somehow decided on Hroth first and Viera later...I mean wouldnt that mean that they would work on that first? Honestly I am really not sure if some of those answers are just a bit of PR speak to keep the anger down. Because if that was the reason, why not talk about this in the liveletter? Why say that in an interview that might not be read that much?

In the end if this was already meant to happen for quite some time, I find it bad to not just be open about this from the start too..why hint at maybe more Viera news after the second fanfest? Why not outright state that there is no male Viera at that one but hint at something else?

It really feels like they are so out of tune with the community..it should have been crystal clear that such a decision will only lead to even more anger.

[BillyKaplan]

It would imo also make more sense if his answer is correct and they somehow decided on Hroth first and Viera later...I mean wouldnt that mean that they would work on that first?

I suppose some work already went into Viera models because they needed it for Fran who was already in the game. But strictly speaking about the interviews, I keep getting different impressions depending on what interview I read and it comes off contradictory.

why hint at maybe more Viera news after the second fanfest? Why not outright state that there is no male Viera at that one but hint at something else?

Because then people would've cancelled their preorders when they were still eligible for it, and had less chances to use their pre-order bonus items... is sadly what it starts to look like. They should've outright told us no male Viera, and then created an air of mystery around what was coming in its stead, instead of it being read as them building more hype for male Viera. Because it also made sense that's what they were getting at - male Viera were never shown before, so they wanted to reveal them in Tokyo, maybe even bring Matsuno over, which would've made more sense in Japan instead of anywhere else...
Instead what we got can be seen as really scammy, and intentionally leading on. People can use the in-game lines like "they might as well not exist to us" all they want, but as has been established repeatedly, that is also the case regarding Keeper of the Moon males and Duskwight Elezen of both genders. You're going to be hard pressed to find them as NPCs in the game, and that makes sense. No one cares how many player characters like that are out there because the only character that matters to the lore is the one you play at that particular moment. So no, nothing that was said in-game was proof we wouldn't be getting male Viera. If anything, the abundance of lore and attention they gave them really implied otherwise!
And when they inevitably remove the locks because I have a hard time believing they won't at this point, question is when - those lines would still remain in the game, equally valid then as they are now, and with the appropriate lack of importance regarding the existence of male Viera as playable.

[Miharu_Miname]

Or maybe it was the final straw for them? Is it really that surprising that someone is finally done with the game if they even failed on that? Just because they are saying that this is the reason why they are unsubbing is probably for a lot of them not the only one to do so.

Also I am not sure why someone is throwing a tantrum just because they are writing that they are going to drop their sub. (Not meant directly at you Miharu just using this post to say that) We have no other direct way to tell SE why we are going. And it is important for SE to know because the ones that go silently are the worst for them because then they dont know why they went away and if they could change it. I also remember at least a couple of "unsub" threads over the last months for different reasons and a lot of them were civil and with reasonable OPs but like most of the times quite a lot of the answers to the OP were rude. Honestly seeing how many threads had been created just to point fingers at those that are disappointed and/or wanted to unsub...(from being a disgrace, blackmailing and more) then I wonder who are really the ones that are throwing tandrums. (And I know bad posters existed on the disappointed side too, but most of the posters had been civil)

I guess, "so there could be a multitude of reasons why folks are especially upset." went over your head? I apologize for my poor wording if that's the case!

I'm not so much surprised as I am sighing because imo, some of the responses I've read both here and on twitter have some users coming off as selfishly entitled and rude, without mentioning anything else square as done. And as I said before though, it comes off as a bit much to a user like me who's somewhat still new (so therefor I lack any context to the things Square has done and how the userbase responded to it). Some of it sounds like people want a reason to leave and were waiting for the right moment. That's my two cents, and this is coming from someone who reaaaalllllyy wants male viera. I have a feeling they'll deliver, but it's not the end of the world for me if we don't get it.