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  1. #31
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Imuka View Post
    No, the Rdm would still be a Part of the Game. Just give the Game more Jobs two Roles.

    I just have no clue, if people would have liked him as a Job with a DPS Role and a Healer Role or just being a DPS only Class, like we have him at the moment.
    Maybe...perhaps...I was never so deep in his Lore, that I could say if this is a great or a bad thing.
    Could be nice, could be bad...I have no clue. ^^

    You see that I did not drop the Dancer for 5.0 and instead whished he would be a Class that can be a Helaer and a DPS. And the Gunblade Job can be a Tank and a DPS.
    Eh, if they don't have the resources to do three jobs per expansion again I don't think they'd have the resources to do 2 1/2 either by doing more smn/sch splits, especially into two different roles and probably using different armor sets too etc. I think this would still be a huge undertaking.
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  2. #32
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    Greven's Avatar
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    Chris Von'greven
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Imuka View Post
    This was something that always felt a bit bad for me when playing Tanks.
    Especially, what Yoshis Team did to the Dark Knight.
    Easier Rotations can be fine for the Tanks if the focus is somewhere else, but spamming a single DPS Combo felt like they made this Class for a Wii Remote.

    Tanks Swaps were nice in HW. They appeared and sometimes not.
    Now it is like "You love tanks swaps, right. So lets put a Tank swap into your Tank swap to make the tanks swaps swap the Tank swaps."
    That's true they added a lot of tank swaps lately with the cherry on top of Seiryu with double tank swaps XD the basic DPS rotations are quite easy but they give your space to react to surroundings, positioning well, cycling your defences etc and so you can optimise your fighting all around.

    That said a person that has anxiety tanking is someone who would enjoy the easy rotation, for those more seasoned tanks they can work on optimisations like every other class after all.
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  3. #33
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    Imuka's Avatar
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    I'muka Mahsa
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Greven View Post
    That said a person that has anxiety tanking is someone who would enjoy the easy rotation, for those more seasoned tanks they can work on optimisations like every other class after all.
    Often I think, this creates the most anxiety amond Players picking up a Tank Class.
    Yeah, but I also think, that this can create some weird feeling among DPS Players picking up a Tank.
    When something feels to easy to feel right and they start to ask themself if they really do it right or not and they start to feel unpleasent like they do something wrong, without noticing it.
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  4. #34
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    Hugo Wolf
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I’m a little curious, what is causing this tank anxiety? What exactly is there to be worried about?
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  5. #35
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    Chris Von'greven
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Imuka View Post
    Often I think, this creates the most anxiety amond Players picking up a Tank Class.
    Yeah, but I also think, that this can create some weird feeling among DPS Players picking up a Tank.
    When something feels to easy to feel right and they start to ask themself if they really do it right or not and they start to feel unpleasent like they do something wrong, without noticing it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugowulf View Post
    I’m a little curious, what is causing this tank anxiety? What exactly is there to be worried about?
    LOL well they are probably not using defensive CD or checking enmity or something anyway XD

    Jokes aside I don't think that's a real issue for many. From my experience, which might be not a good representation of he masses IDK, most players think it's hard to keep enmity and full of responsibilities.
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  6. #36
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Greven View Post
    LOL well they are probably not using defensive CD or checking enmity or something anyway XD

    Jokes aside I don't think that's a real issue for many. From my experience, which might be not a good representation of he masses IDK, most players think it's hard to keep enmity and full of responsibilities.
    The leadership component is the biggest hurdle for me, personally. The tank is expected to lead the group in DF content at least, and if you're unfamiliar with the content or are still getting used to the job, you've automatically failed as far as a lot of people are concerned.
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  7. #37
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    Whiskey Bravo
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Have you tried MCH?
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  8. #38
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    Mael Bess
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    The leadership component is the biggest hurdle for me, personally. The tank is expected to lead the group in DF content at least, and if you're unfamiliar with the content or are still getting used to the job, you've automatically failed as far as a lot of people are concerned.
    I don't find this true at all, at least in my experience.
    Sure if you know the content well you can lead the group, but tanks have to learn too, if you're unfamiliar with the content or don't feel confident in the mechanics just say so, someone always steps up in the teaching part. If nobody knows the mechanics then it also doesn't matter.

    So eitherway there's no harm.
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  9. #39
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    Kaska Onerys
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Gunblades are a full on DPS weapon. It is weird that Squall's weapon is attached to a tank class.
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  10. #40
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    Chris Von'greven
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    Ragnarok
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Gunblades are a full on DPS weapon. It is weird that Squall's weapon is attached to a tank class.
    Paladin would be the only tank if that was the case :P
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