Question regarding the other side of the pond

[SoleilAlphi]

uh… the "male viera or riot imma unsub, the dev team is sexist etc. etc." posts that litter the forums since this weekend? There is way and way of getting your opinion across, and as some posters above pointed out, while it is not everyone who behaves this way, there's some who DO throw tantrums. you can't hide behind the "it is my opinion so I have a right to be rude and threaten and cry". that is selfish and that is children's logic. Plus the whole sexist thing? THAT is cheap politics. But it's not like I expect anyone to agree with me, in fact, my view here is the unpopular one it seems.

[Emmanellain]

uh… the "male viera or riot imma unsub, the dev team is sexist etc. etc." posts that litter the forums since this weekend? There is way and way of getting your opinion across, and as some posters above pointed out, while it is not everyone who behaves this way, there's some who DO throw tantrums. you can't hide behind the "it is my opinion so I have a right to be rude and threaten and cry". that is selfish and that is children's logic. Plus the whole sexist thing? THAT is cheap politics. But it's not like I expect anyone to agree with me, in fact, my view here is the unpopular one it seems.

I think you're mainly focusing on the bad eggs here? for every bad comment, there's 20+ that are calm or constructive.
Besides everyone is aware of the people who throw tantrums, why not just try ignoring them and continuing to benefit the debate with proper input than fixating on them?
If ya feed a troll it'll keep on going. Personally a lot of good conversations have been had already in the male viera thread which goes exactly in line with the feedback Yoshi says they will look into. So yea?

[Anesteria]

uh… the "male viera or riot imma unsub, the dev team is sexist etc. etc." posts that litter the forums since this weekend? There is way and way of getting your opinion across, and as some posters above pointed out, while it is not everyone who behaves this way, there's some who DO throw tantrums. you can't hide behind the "it is my opinion so I have a right to be rude and threaten and cry". that is selfish and that is children's logic. Plus the whole sexist thing? THAT is cheap politics. But it's not like I expect anyone to agree with me, in fact, my view here is the unpopular one it seems.

When people conflate the two and then try to use that by selling the entire piece as "toxic" then I'm sorry but the ones resorting to "childer's logic" is not just the extremes complaining.

Those who will insult others and use poor arguments only discredit themselves, and DO NOT sell it as if it were the people complaining alone that did it, because it only demonstrates that you are the one being dishonest.

Also, stop saying that unsubbing is nothing more than a threat. If you think you're behaving like "an adult" then actually demonstrate you are one and learn what a protest is.

It matters not if it's unpopular, you have said yours and people have said theirs because it's their right as consumers to critcise. Do not think that some people aren't trying to dismiss legitimate criticism by lumping it together with the more irrational demands, or by inventing a million excuses that crumble by inspecting them for various reasons, which could very well be that in their minds criticism of any kind is not permissible or they operate with a mentality of "If it's fine for me, it's fine for everybody!".

[SoleilAlphi]

I did not resort to poor arguments, nor strwman, nor sexism to get my opinion across so no I ain't dishonest. Legitimate criticism is done with logic, which was very lacking this weekend. On the subject of unsubbing, if you stay true to your decision, and actually keep staying unsubbed until the devs give male viera and female hrotgar, then you can say you behaved like an adult, that you are an adult and know what a protest is. If you say you'll be unsubbing, but then show up first in line the day ShB early access starts, then you are being hypocritical, dishonest in your intention, and your protest void. Which is what 90% of people saying "I'll unsub" will do.