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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    This is true. Still, it does not forbid people to ask them about this and maybe see the change in future. . .
    Not saying it does.

    But them saying "We'll look at feed back" doesn't mean "Basically confirmed!" as that poster was making it seem.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
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    I was only speculating.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    Not saying it does.

    But them saying "We'll look at feed back" doesn't mean "Basically confirmed!" as that poster was making it seem.
    Sure, I see you point. Just.. some people tend to react in way "muh shut up already stop whine" which is a little bit wrong because in the way how they see it, the fact of implementing female Vieras now and other genderlocked races in past is the result of "whining", too. So there is overreacting on both sides of this conflict.
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  4. #94
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Sure, I see you point. Just.. some people tend to react in way "muh shut up already stop whine" which is a little bit wrong because in the way how they see it, the fact of implementing female Vieras now and other genderlocked races in past is the result of "whining", too. So there is overreacting on both sides of this conflict.
    I might even go back to my original support thread and check to see if any people who were against adding viera fantasia to female viera when they come out... lol

    Even when we're being reasonable about our requests, we get shut down. Those who mock and belittle us get to enjoy the fruits of our labor later down the line forgetting how it is exactly we got these cool races. It's a shame.
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    I do wonder what people gain by whiteknighting something they wont gain anything from.
    Does it pleasure you that much? So people dont get what they desire for?
    Can you really sleep if Yoshida would indeed agree cause of this?
    Do you enjoy that much when people go berserk and cause on outrage again.? Are you being that sadistic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vomitbelch View Post
    I respect their decision and I wouldn't want to add more strain on the dev team to painstakingly make the other genders and possibly have to reconsider NPC storylines and everything else that goes along with it.
    So you would also agree on halting development on BLU as well ?
    Your argument is quite one sided. Why is it only the genderlocks that should be ignored ? Because of stress and strain ? BLU development as such a unique class could take years to fully implement, but unlocking gender is just too hard and so should not do it ?
    Coming from someone who is familiar with the game development process, there is almost always stress and strain, especially the larger a team is.
    No one is asking for them immediately, we know not to expect immediacy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vomitbelch View Post
    After the behavior of the community I hope you (the devs) stick to your guns and keep what you've already made. Don't reward bad behavior and make more work for yourselves.
    So in this logic on any issue ever, because one person is acting like a toddler, the rest of the hundreds of thousands needs to be punished. Eureka !
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    So you would also agree on halting development on BLU as well ?
    Your argument is quite one sided. Why is it only the genderlocks that should be ignored ? Because of stress and strain ? BLU development as such a unique class could take years to fully implement, but unlocking gender is just too hard and so should not do it ?
    Coming from someone who is familiar with the game development process, there is almost always stress and strain, especially the larger a team is.
    No one is asking for them immediately, we know not to expect immediacy.



    So in this logic on any issue ever, because one person is acting like a toddler, the rest of the hundreds of thousands needs to be punished. Eureka !
    What you say is all just opinion.

    I for example don´t need more races, but i like Eureka. For me it would be much better if they put their ressources into that content.

    And btw there was only 1 person activly working on Blue mage, they even said that. And making a new race is much more work, so compareing those two things doesn´t make sense.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    I do wonder what people gain by whiteknighting something they wont gain anything from.
    Does it pleasure you that much? So people dont get what they desire for?
    Can you really sleep if Yoshida would indeed agree cause of this?
    Do you enjoy that much when people go berserk and cause on outrage again.? Are you being that sadistic?
    I really hate how strangely personal people seem to take any opposition to their PoVs and how they color said opposition as malicious.

    To put it in the most basic way I can think (Cause most people don't seem to get why it's hard for them to just add a race) it's like ... going to a circus and watching someone ride a unicycle, do tricks and juggle stuff at the same time.

    Entertainer says: I'm juggling 7 colorful balls! I can ONLY handle juggling 1 more colored ball and still do all the cool tricks I have planned ... but you all like the colors so I'm gonna grab this half yellow and pink ball!"

    Small group of people in the front row: BOOOOOOOO!!!! We want a 9th! *Insert all the ways people take this as a personal attack and threaten him. Also toss in claims of sexism or w/e alarmist nonsense they use to get attention*

    Juggler: Uhhh, I figure people wouldn't be happy. I'll think about it but this is really pretty much all I can handle ...

    Other people: Juggler, it's ok. I enjoy your show and I'd love more colored balls but it's fine if that's all you can legit handle. I wouldn't want to see fewer tricks because you're trying to do something you can't handle well.

    Front Row Group: Why are you whiteknighting them!?! Why would you want ME not to see more balls juggled!? What could you gain by voicing an opinion that doesn't align with me seeing a fully pink ball juggled ... and yellow ball I guess!

    That's what this sounds like to me.

    I mean, I'm unique in this I think.
    I was a firm believer in the Blufever leaks. He said 2 races so that's what I was expecting no matter what people said. And I even thought it was silly to think they would gender lock. Figured that they must have started work on these 2 new races after HW was released and THAT'S a long time so that's how we could get 2. And unlike most all people asking for unlocks (being a Femroe for years at the time of this post for you future peeps) I felt like I'm one of the few who would actually PLAY as a tall Lion woman. I know I'm going Viera but I always figured that if they look good to me I'd jump races around sometime. (still gonna flip flop if I like the guy I can make in the benchmark)

    After the confirmation I was let down some ... but then I read them say SEVERAL times how hard it seems to be for them to add races and how they can only handle this much. I look back and reflect on how I haven't felt the need to do these seasonal events ... because they're so busy being hard at work making Viera and Da Beasty Bois along with all the other stuff for ShB that they're willing to make a lame AF DRK Sword and a CUL 2nd hand Knife be the glam rewards for friggin Valentines day and leave us the durppy Ghost Minions for Halloween. Looked back on other things that are suffering as we go towards to this next expansion and realized it's not bad to be content.

    So yeah, I'm fine with them focusing on the other parts of the game if this is as much as they can handle with their work flow and still get things out as fast as they normally do. Adding a new race is a huge undertaking that permanently adds more difficulty for them moving forward.
    In a prefect world I everyone would be happy ... maybe they will figure out a way to improve their work flow or maybe they will have a break through in updating their spaghetti code.

    People are free to voice their opinion and I'm free to tell them " I'm OK with this".
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 03-27-2019 at 05:45 PM.

  9. #99
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    Quote Originally Posted by manickitty View Post
    It’s obviously a troll thread, and indicative of how toxic some people can be. They get so triggered and can’t stand it when people want things they don’t like. And they have the nerve to act all high and mighty pretending respect for devs when all they care about is depriving others of their voice.
    And calling someone a troll and claiming they are triggered just because they made a thread respecting the dev's decision isn't toxic? Talk about hypocritical.
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    Last edited by Selova; 03-27-2019 at 06:10 PM.

  10. #100
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    I find it just sad how ludicrously entitled alot of ppl playing this game are. "I WANT A PINK PONY NOW AND IF I DONT GET IT SE ARE AGAINST ANIMALS; BURN THEM ALL!" like grow up already. it's a game, not your personal erp playground. I seriously hope Se wont add male viera or female Hrotgars, I hope they wont be swayed by all the crybabies. And if ppl quit the game over this? good riddance.
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    “Even the strongest of opponents always has a weakness”

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