I would like to show my support for the Devs and the gender-lock of the new races.

[Sclair0]

3. It honors the existing Viera lore better.

Does it though? The actual lore in regards to male Viera makes leaving their traditional role more attractive than it would be for a female Viera, and female Viera also have the strict social taboo of "Don't leave the forest ever" but they're being given the "Some people rebel against their culture" reasoning. Sure there's also the 1/8 lore on the birth rate, but that's essentially the case with the catboys right?

I get the time constraints but the "respect the lore" argument is terrible, the lore isn't good enough to support it, it wasn't in ivalice either but ivalice was a single player game where the Viera had a specific role to fill in the story, the role of being a playable race for the main character of an MMO is way different and needs a far better lore reasoning if lore is a reason.

[Poisonous]

Does it though? The actual lore in regards to male Viera makes leaving their traditional role more attractive than it would be for a female Viera, and female Viera also have the strict social taboo of "Don't leave the forest ever" but they're being given the "Some people rebel against their culture" reasoning. Sure there's also the 1/8 lore on the birth rate, but that's essentially the case with the catboys right?

I get the time constraints but the "respect the lore" argument is terrible, the lore isn't good enough to support it, it wasn't in ivalice either but ivalice was a single player game where the Viera had a specific role to fill in the story, the role if being a playable race for the main character of an MMO is way different and needs a far better lore reasoning if lore is a reason.

Female Viera are the only ones known to rebel against that social structure afaik.

[Sclair0]

Female Viera are the only ones known to rebel against that social structure afaik.

But rebelling against a social structure isn't a racial trait... Viera that do that are an extreme minority. So if we're respecting the lore then there should be zero playable Viera. (and Au Ra for that matter since leaving the areas their culture inhabit is also a major taboo)

[Lihtleita]

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3. It honors the existing Viera lore better.

pity it also breaks ronso lore.

[Oce]

Right. Because females wearing pants are totally pushing an "equality" agenda. Try not to pass out. That's a lot of breath you're going to be spending.

It was in the 1800's, actually. That's sort of how progress happens, you know. I also really like the scare quotes around equality, as if equal rights are somehow a bad thing.

[NekoHina]

I support their decision right now because I think they made the best available choice. Time constraints made for tough decisions and YoshiP tried to do what would please the majority of players. Folks had been clamoring for Viera for a long time as well as a beast like race. So they did what they could to allow the most choices at the point in time.

They have never said they would not create the other genders later, but this expansion seems like it is massive as far as development. I think they never intended any disrespect to anyone, but quite the opposite. They were trying to please the most players. I do not understand why everyone is so upset. I wanted a new healer, but I understand their reasoning and know they will do a new one next time around. So it is very likely that is what will happen with the other genders. They can only do as much as they can.

How many people would be happy if the choice had been only male and female Hrothgar? Viera fans would be outraged after seeing Fran. A choice had to be made at this point in time and it seems like they made the best possible choice to appeal to the most players. Everyone can try out each race and see if you will enjoy it at least.

Patience is a virtue as is empathy. We can demand this or that, but at the end of the day sometimes there is only enough time and manpower for so much. It looks like an amazing story and a tremendous amount of content. I am happy and grateful for what they have tried to do and I am sure they will listen and do their best to create the other genders next round.

[Bellsong]

Honestly, the whole situation makes me think of these wise words.



Personally really wished they had gone hard on either Viera or Hrothgar, instead of trying for a shaky middleground. but that's just me.

I'm happy their open to feedback at the very least, and with any luck they can fix their workflow to a point where the other genders will be possible for 6.0 or sooner.

[Valor_C]

Well too bad for you that now they're asking for feedback and reconsidering their mistake about being sexist

Öööööhm, if they are sexiest... why did they ad male Miqo'te and female Roegadyn *if i remember right female Highlander aswell ?* in 2.0 ?
And if they are so bad People.. why did you play their Game ?

[ACE135]

No, he has troll/special snowflake problems. If he's ok with a situation, then how DARE anybody else complain! Typical self-centred person.

Could be said to others as well. If you want something to be changed, then how dare SE to not change it.

You can all ask for changes, but SE should not be forced to do anything just because you want it. In the end, the decision still lies with SE.

[LittleChickenNugget]

Isn't there already a thread that's related to supporting male Viera? Perhaps those in favor should go there and let those who enjoy things how they currently are stay here.