I would like to show my support for the Devs and the gender-lock of the new races.

[whiskeybravo]

You are selfish because you want others’ feedback to be quashed.

Not really. I disagreed with the notion that developmental resources played a part in their decision, due to the fact they did obviously have enough resources for 2 genders of a different race. I disagreed with the notion that Lore is irrelevant in their decision making process, it very obviously is intrinsic to their whole story creation process, without which what would we even be playing? I simply pointed out the hypocrisy of these opinions.

What you are attempting to describe is some authoritarian notion that no one else should be able to give feedback if it doesn't align with the facts as presented, or much less of my own opinion. Yet you yourself are displaying such authoritarianism as a result - "How DARE he make a statement based in facts, TROLL! Don't listen to him!"

You are absolutely inconsiderate. You also have no idea what actual argumentation is and it’s rather sad, but typical of internet trolls. All you can do is bloviate with strawmen and rhetorical questions, indicating an inability to actually formulate an argument. But then again, projection is Troll 101, so you’re familiar with that.

I think we can let the text speak for itself.

In short, you’re toxic but then I suppose the internet is full of your kind and this is no exception. The whole “Bahahhahaha look at my faux bravado” thing is tired and pathetic, as are your antics.

In short, you still haven't enunciated any reasonable retort to my statements. Just whatever strawman your imagination could create of my possible personality or beliefs.

Respond with your usual troll antics, I shan’t bother to respond, it’s not worth my time reading, and I’ve seen it all before anyway. It’s usually something like “omg you refuse to engage my troll behaviour so I WIN!” The sad thing is you see things in such a binary fashion, winning or losing. The day you mature and actually see beyond the end of your nose is the day that you might be worth paying attention to. But I doubt that day will come anytime soon. Enjoy your “last word”, I suppose you get some sort of fulfilment out of that.

Again, backing out of the conversation because you know you don't have any logical argument to stand on.

[Renali16]

Regardless of gender-lock (honestly, female Ronso does sound cool), I do agree that we could pool more resources into the rest of the expansion so we don't end up with boring endgame content.

[Meril]

Well too bad for you that now they're asking for feedback and reconsidering their mistake about being sexist

SEXIST? LOOOOL

[Lacan]

My only issue with Whiskey's viewpoints is that he thinks only 15 people actually wanna be a male Viera. :v He's entitled to everything else he says, we all have different priorities when it comes to stuff like this, but that line of thinking is just ludicrous to me. We've got thousands (tens of thousands?) of catboys running around all over the place and he thinks only 15 people would actually want to be a male viera?

Isn't Miqote the most played male race in the game after Hyur? Not saying every single one of them would want to fantasia, but it shows there is already tons of interest in a race like that. Stands to reason that Male Viera would be just as popular.

[Mikal-]

I, for one, am super stoked that we get a real, beast-looking race (Hrothgar) as the other "beast races" have basically been: generic human with cat ears/tail or other generic human with horns/minor scales/tail.

But too bad for the ladies that want the beast race, right?

I just think the races will feel incomplete until they have their gender counterparts; especially after the lore for Viera males was written in the Ivalice Alliance raid, and Ronso, the inspiration for the Hrothgar's design, already have female designs established from FFX. I'm glad we got variety in terms of our racial selection this time around, but it doesn't change the fact that the races feel half baked because we're only going to get half of 2 instead of 1 complete race. Their decisions aren't above criticism just because they worked hard on it.

[Galaktica]

Soooo, for those of us who have voiced our complaints in a reasonable and polite manner (and there have been plenty, but sure, let's keep ignoring that), do our opinions just not count now ooooor...? If we're gonna start ignoring entire demographics of the community as a whole based on a few bad apples, then there would literally be no one left to listen to at this point.

[Gemina]

I respect their decision and I wouldn't want to add more strain on the dev team to painstakingly make the other genders and possibly have to reconsider NPC storylines and everything else that goes along with it. So far I've mainly seen people upset about male Viera anyways. After the behavior of the community I hope you (the devs) stick to your guns and keep what you've already made. Don't reward bad behavior and make more work for yourselves.

I, for one, am super stoked that we get a real, beast-looking race (Hrothgar) as the other "beast races" have basically been: generic human with cat ears/tail or other generic human with horns/minor scales/tail.

I think it is so awesome that they added Hrothgar. Freakin Lionboys man!? That is so damn cool! And I am very much looking forward to running around in duties with those who choose this race. I support the devs 100%, and I am just fine that I am in the small camp that did not even want male Viera in the game in the first place. It wasn't enough that the demand for bunny outfits for males was so ridiculous that SE basically said, "HERE. NOW STFU!" I've just grown so tired of the gender lock arguments and the demands for these restrictions to be non-existent. I mean, if you're just going to fem out your bunnyboy, which we all know most were going to do anyway, then just choose female. But you know.... more options...even though there are now two more. Not good enough though. Not for NA. Never is.

[Oce]

I mean, if you're just going to fem out your bunnyboy, which we all know most were going to do anyway, then just choose female.

I'll be sure to tell every female character I see wearing pants to just fantasia to male from now on.

[Gemina]

I'll be sure to tell every female character I see wearing pants to just fantasia to male from now on.

Right. Because females wearing pants are totally pushing an "equality" agenda. Try not to pass out. That's a lot of breath you're going to be spending.

[Poisonous]

I think it came down to:

1. We already know what female Viera are like and that's what people wanted. Male Viera have never been seen before and people were bound to disagree, no matter how they were implemented, people were going to be disappointed.
2. It's easier to add two races now and then add the genders later.
3. It honors the existing Viera lore better.