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  1. #111
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    MrKimper's Avatar
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    Shilnarf Silmornif
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    This male viera thing got weird really quickly. I can kinda see why the dev team wanted to avoid adding them if conversation like this comes up xd.
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  2. #112
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    Geigerette's Avatar
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    Hemera Harmonia
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    People are asking for these because they want "hairless twink" males. It's not about small and cute. They want slim and young looking. My preference is no male Viera, to keep with the present intention.
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  3. #113
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    Jinro Oja
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Reyno View Post
    Do you consider female Au Ra players to be creeps and weirdos, too?

    That's what I thought.

    They don't need to look like children. Short men exist.
    Actually yes. I think that the sexual dimorphism in the Au Ra 'race' is incredibly weird and offputting and I would rather they not repeat their mistake because two wrongs don't make a right!

    Oh, were you expecting me to say something else??

    1. Alphinaud looks like a child. He has the body of a child.
    2. That concept art that's been making its rounds is literally for children Viera.
    3. There are WAY too many sexually-themed things happening to/around the WoL for me to be okay with the WoL looking like a child.
    4. ^^^Because of all of this ^^^ You're not making a good case for yourself not wanting to creep on children. Are you on a list somewhere that we should be aware of?

    You're right. Not everyone has to be tall. Miqo'te men stand at barely 5', but they look like adults. What's your point?
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  4. #114
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    J-Reyno's Avatar
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    Rayner Blackwolfe
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    This male viera thing got weird really quickly. I can kinda see why the dev team wanted to avoid adding them if conversation like this comes up xd.
    Coming up with your own inappropriate images to share so that you can pretend it's what others are asking for while deeming them "weird" or "creepy" is how elementary kids on the playground act.

    If you want examples of how a shorter race of men could look, you can ask. You can also just respectfully disagree. As others have done. We can share opinions without making demands or trying to attack the character of others.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreyu View Post
    Actually yes. I think that the sexual dimorphism in the Au Ra 'race' is incredibly weird and offputting and I would rather they not repeat their mistake because two wrongs don't make a right!

    Oh, were you expecting me to say something else??

    1. Alphinaud looks like a child. He has the body of a child.
    2. That concept art that's been making its rounds is literally for children Viera.
    3. There are WAY too many sexually-themed things happening to/around the WoL for me to be okay with the WoL looking like a child.
    4. ^^^Because of all of this ^^^ You're not making a good case for yourself not wanting to creep on children. Are you on a list somewhere that we should be aware of?

    You're right. Not everyone has to be tall. Miqo'te men stand at barely 5', but they look like adults. What's your point?
    I mean it's not even that he looks like a child, he's, 16 years old which isn't the legal standard in a lot of countries. I think the main issue is(And this isn't addressing you Atreyu)

    IF YOU WANT MALE VIERA TO BE SHORT MALES STOP USING ALPHINAUD'S BODY TYPE AS A POINT OF REFERENCE, HE IS 16 YEARS OLD. USE ANOTHER CHARACTER IN MEDIA WHO IS OF AGE AS A REFERENCE POINT.

    You're just bound to cause discomfort if you press for that sort of body type comparison, it'll probably make the devs(and forum posters) weary of what your intentions are when you specifically shout out a 16 year old characters body type as being what you would prefer.

    No I am not saying this because of his body type alone I am saying this because he is SIXTEEN there are other characters in media with legal ages who would fit your description.

    Like soren(ADULT) from fire emblem or something, or even what's his name from awakening.



    This dude.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by J-Reyno View Post
    Coming up with your own inappropriate images to share so that you can pretend it's what others are asking for while deeming them "weird" or "creepy" is how elementary kids on the playground act.

    If you want examples of how a shorter race of men could look, you can ask. You can also just respectfully disagree. As others have done. We can share opinions without making demands or trying to attack the character of others.
    It's just weird, my issue isn't with the body type, I know you guys just basically want an astolfo type character, but stop using alphinaud as a point of reference, he's literally 16 in lore. It's creepy.
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  7. #117
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    Rayner Blackwolfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreyu View Post
    Actually yes. I think that the sexual dimorphism in the Au Ra 'race' is incredibly weird
    Not my question. I am not asking you about sexual dimorphism. I'll ask again: do you think female Au Ra players are weird for playing female Au Ra?

    Quote Originally Posted by Atreyu View Post
    Oh, were you expecting me to say something else??
    I was expecting you to answer the question. You're free to try again. I'll address the rest of this in the meantime.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atreyu View Post
    1. Alphinaud looks like a child. He has the body of a child.
    2. That concept art that's been making its rounds is literally for children Viera.
    3. There are WAY too many sexually-themed things happening to/around the WoL for me to be okay with the WoL looking like a child.
    4. ^^^Because of all of this ^^^ You're not making a good case for yourself not wanting to creep on children. Are you on a list somewhere that we should be aware of?
    Who are these statements directed to? Can you point me to my comment asking for the race to look like Alphinaud or for them to appear childlike? Are you confusing me with someone else? You better go back, read and correct yourself before you address me again because your attempts to misrepresent my character so that you can call me a pedophile based on statements that I have not made can and will be taken as harassment. Don't think for a second that I take this lightly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atreyu View Post
    You're right. Not everyone has to be tall. Miqo'te men stand at barely 5', but they look like adults. What's your point?
    And Viera men can be the same, except a little shorter or at the height of Au Ra female.
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  8. #118
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    Lacan's Avatar
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    Ceolred Stone
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    I personally think guys who play as fem Au Ra are weird. :v Makes me wonder if they didn't just craft their own perfect little animu waifu when they were working in the character creator. Combine that with all their cutesy emotes and everything and it just makes me uneasy. Like seriously, look at their emotes:

    https://youtu.be/b1HsBu0RK0k

    They giggle and jump around like a little girl. Even the person who made the emote video said they didn't like the "fake cuteness" of it. So if straight guys are making these waifus I think they've got some 'splainin to do.
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  9. #119
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    Daiza Auvec
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    Regardless of if male viera are taller or shorter, I feel they need to come across as more...feral.

    They are supposed to be incredibly isolated and territorial, spending the vast majority of their lives in solitude except for the rare occasions they go to the villages to mate.

    What I'm getting at is they shouldn't really look pretty. They should look like at some point they decided that instead of living by themselves in the Wood they would travel, and thus they do, but they still look like someone who spent most of their lives alone in the woods.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lacan View Post
    I personally think guys who play as fem Au Ra are weird. :v Makes me wonder if they didn't just craft their own perfect little animu waifu when they were working in the character creator. Combine that with all their cutesy emotes and everything and it just makes me uneasy. Like seriously, look at their emotes:

    https://youtu.be/b1HsBu0RK0k

    They giggle and jump around like a little girl. Even the person who made the emote video said they didn't like the "fake cuteness" of it. So if straight guys are making these waifus I think they've got some 'splainin to do.
    Valid statement, but I've had friends who were way shorter than me (I'm 6'4) that I could have sworn were like 18 at MOST and they turned out to be 3 or 5 years older than me. Again I'm not saying it's right, i think in general that's slightly 'alright dude haha xd' worthy when you see a shuisui female au ra, but people like that do exist. It's just when those people are literally like, 15 that it becomes offputting like people who wanted to be child miqo's. You're actively choosing the child variant because they are children.
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