Viera males should be smaller like Au Ra females

[Vidu]

...looking at this thread I cant help but think that at least one reason they hesitated about adding male Viera is that they were aware of how many different images, ideas and expectations people are having for them - as far as I can tell we heard everything from "I want them to be lala-sized but less fat" to "I want beefy, muscular elezen with bunny ears".
No surprise no one wants to come up with a definitive look for male Viera - they can only disappoint, no matter what they do, they'll get backlash. Partly because of their own making of course, giving people so much time to come up with their perfect bunny-boy-image that they'll never met now, but I'm calling it right now: if we ever get male Viera, most of you wont get what they want. And I dont envy the poor person (most likely Yoshi...) who has to tell the crowd that they eventually decided to make the male Viera look like the dwarf rabbit minion that you can play as now (you can pick from 25 different fur colours, adjust the ear length and choose one of 4 fur-patterns - no gear will be visible, cutting down costs), since they wont be able to come up with a design that pleases the playerbase anyways...

[Fukuro]

So you guys just want male Vieras to ERP?

sorry but the imagination, people wanting to erp as childlike, preteen bodytypes, lets me throw up.

and no it‘s not the same as female au‘ra, since being short, slender for a female is more natural. yes a female young looking au ra from the looks can go through as 16-25, but alphinaud does not look anything over 14/15 maybe 16 - thats what grinds my gears when people compare the two.

[Lacan]

Is Alphinaud really that much shorter than a min. height Midlander/Miqote male though? I don't get why people are freaking out over people wanting to play as a character that size. He's literally 16 (maybe 17 now?) in the story. People can already easily make female characters that look 16, especially miqote and au ra females.

EDIT: And furthermore... we literally have a race of people designed to look like grade school children. It says so in the ARR artbook that that's what they were modelled after. So somehow we're able to get away with that... but young looking male characters would be going too far somehow? I really don't get it.

[manickitty]

sorry but the imagination, people wanting to erp as childlike, preteen bodytypes, lets me throw up.

and no it‘s not the same as female au‘ra, since being short, slender for a female is more natural. yes a female young looking au ra from the looks can go through as 16-25, but alphinaud does not look anything over 14/15 maybe 16 - thats what grinds my gears when people compare the two.

“More natural”? In Eorzea? With talking fish and turtles and magical floating puffballs?

[ArcaneCarbuncle]

Hard pass on small male Viera from me.
While I do agree that the options for shorter male characters are lacking, I'm not keen on the Viera being used to fill that void.
I dislike the sexual dimorphism of the Au Ra and I'd dislike it here.

[Gwenorai]

Is Alphinaud really that much shorter than a min. height Midlander/Miqote male though? I don't get why people are freaking out over people wanting to play as a character that size. He's literally 16 (maybe 17 now?) in the story. People can already easily make female characters that look 16, especially miqote and au ra females.

EDIT: And furthermore... we literally have a race of people designed to look like grade school children. It says so in the ARR artbook that that's what they were modelled after. So somehow we're able to get away with that... but young looking male characters would be going too far somehow? I really don't get it.

Sadly not everyone wants to have the Viera looking like that - I get it; but the other part of a race that has been sought after for over a decade - to have it looking like a child, huge let down. I'd be fine with feol looking like this but I do not wish the entire 'male' population to look like children. It would honestly ruin it for me. Besides, I honestly find the idea of playing as a child or looking like one to be disturbing in regards to a MMO.

I don't want to see it in a bathing suit, I don't wish to see people erping in any guide on frisky manner on that bodytype. Sure, it happens with the females - and it's still creepy. And the massive dimorphism with the aura is bad.

[Lacan]

Hard pass on small male Viera from me.
While I do agree that the options for shorter male characters are lacking, I'm not keen on the Viera being used to fill that void.
I dislike the sexual dimorphism of the Au Ra and I'd dislike it here.

Yea, I agree with this. Just going off how they were described, I have trouble imagining male Viera being small and cute. The only thing I could see happening is one of the subraces being a bit smaller and softer looking than the other.

Sadly not everyone wants to have the Viera looking like that - I get it; but the other part of a race that has been sought after for over a decade - to have it looking like a child, huge let down. I'd be fine with feol looking like this but I do not wish the entire 'male' population to look like children. It would honestly ruin it for me. Besides, I honestly find the idea of playing as a child or looking like one to be disturbing in regards to a MMO.

I don't want to see it in a bathing suit, I don't wish to see people erping in any guide on frisky manner on that bodytype. Sure, it happens with the females - and it's still creepy. And the massive dimorphism with the aura is bad.

Yea, I agree completely with you. I don't want male Viera to look like that either (at least not all of them). I just don't like the double standard of it being okay with females (judging by how popular fem au ra is) but suddenly perverse and strange when people dare ask for something similar for male characters. Just looks like hypocrisy to me. If we're going to try and apply morality to it like that we should be doing it universally. We can't just assume that everyone who wants an option like that to be perverse or something.

[Haprimac]

I'm okay with them being a little shorter than female viera, but I don't approve of au ra level of height difference. That said, I'm an owner of two bunnies irl, male and female and the size difference isn't that absurd (not that it matters, just felt like pointing it out).

[Fukuro]

“More natural”? In Eorzea? With talking fish and turtles and magical floating puffballs?

so you don‘t find it questionable putting a 13 year old boy in lingerie. because it‘s not real life right? it‘s just fantasy, that makes it totally right, where talking fish and turtles exist, everything else should be possible too!

and yes i said that, because people were comparing alphinaud (13/14 years old looking) to a female au ra (16-26 years looking)

[Renali16]

...looking at this thread I cant help but think that at least one reason they hesitated about adding male Viera is that they were aware of how many different images, ideas and expectations people are having for them - as far as I can tell we heard everything from "I want them to be lala-sized but less fat" to "I want beefy, muscular elezen with bunny ears".
No surprise no one wants to come up with a definitive look for male Viera - they can only disappoint, no matter what they do, they'll get backlash. Partly because of their own making of course, giving people so much time to come up with their perfect bunny-boy-image that they'll never met now, but I'm calling it right now: if we ever get male Viera, most of you wont get what they want. And I dont envy the poor person (most likely Yoshi...) who has to tell the crowd that they eventually decided to make the male Viera look like the dwarf rabbit minion that you can play as now (you can pick from 25 different fur colours, adjust the ear length and choose one of 4 fur-patterns - no gear will be visible, cutting down costs), since they wont be able to come up with a design that pleases the playerbase anyways...

To me, this is screaming female worgen from WoW all over again.