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    Tsalmaveth's Avatar
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    Verdandir Sadi
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    The issue I have with Geomancer is that it has been described as 'AST' only focused on Earth vs Star based, as being the same kind of healer, a mirror, and that the person came to the AST place to study/see how they were trained to learn from them/further his own training, right? It feels like it would be just... to close to what the AST is then.

    I'd far rather get a completely DIFFERENT Healer type than something that has been described as THAT CLOSE to another established healer. Not only that, but I'd also like to move AWAY from Doma/Hingashi at this point. We have other lands opening up and we could use some classes from THOSE areas. Chemist, Oracle, etc... Everyone is so focused on Geomancer because it was mentioned, but we need to push past that to look at both other world areas(or shards?) and other TYPES OF HEALING.
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    Miste's Avatar
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    Miste Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsalmaveth View Post
    I'd far rather get a completely DIFFERENT Healer type than something that has been described as THAT CLOSE to another established healer..
    Yeah, I have the same worries about Geo. It just doesn't seem like it would be very different at all like...Geo is known for earth/wind/water magic and that is ...just like CNJ/WHM, so I'm not sure how well that would work unless they totally revamp Geo itself and make it different than what it was usually known for I guess.

    This is why I am still kinda sad DNC didn't end up being the healer, it does work as ranged DPS too, but I feel like it really could have added something new and unique to the healer role if it was done properly :/
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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Tsalmaveth View Post
    The issue I have with Geomancer is that it has been described as 'AST' only focused on Earth vs Star based, as being the same kind of healer, a mirror, and that the person came to the AST place to study/see how they were trained to learn from them/further his own training, right? It feels like it would be just... to close to what the AST is then.

    I'd far rather get a completely DIFFERENT Healer type than something that has been described as THAT CLOSE to another established healer. Not only that, but I'd also like to move AWAY from Doma/Hingashi at this point. We have other lands opening up and we could use some classes from THOSE areas. Chemist, Oracle, etc... Everyone is so focused on Geomancer because it was mentioned, but we need to push past that to look at both other world areas(or shards?) and other TYPES OF HEALING.
    what i would say the solution would be is incorporate the ffxi geomancer stuff into astro

    As it is now, white mage is a white mage as we've always known it rename aero and stone to dia and banish and it's pretty much a spot on. Not saying they should do that but illustrating that they serve the same purpose

    Scholar is something that is pretty much unique like even compared to any other mmo i've played. A lot of it's focus is on mitigation while a good chunk of it's healing is done passively through the fairy. I'd go so far as to say scholar is a triumph of class designing and just needs balancing tweaks to keep it in line

    astrologian is clearly the one that needs changing if we're going to have three standout different healers. As an astrologian main it's kind of a terrifying prospect but the move that needs to be made.
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    Ociela Koslun
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    Midgardsormr
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    astrologian is clearly the one that needs changing if we're going to have three standout different healers. As an astrologian main it's kind of a terrifying prospect but the move that needs to be made.
    Same, and I suspected AST was going to take the brunt of changes to make room for healer 4, even to the point of losing sects and either becoming pure Diurnal or pure Nocturnal, or both AST and H4 getting new healing styles altogether. So eventually the setups would've been like WHM/AST, WHM/SCH, SCH/H4, AST/H4. If they wanted to stick to just regens and barriers make say AST/SCH compete over Barrier healer slot, and WHM and H4 compete over Regen healer slot (or flip AST/H4), or heck give 4 a heck of a lot of support and make it hard to play AST/H4. Sure having AST mostly reworked would make it a rough transition, but for the long term health AST is the one that needs to change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ayer2015 View Post
    If you cant understand why healers would not be down about not getting a new job, you clearly cant view a situation objectively. Tanks and healers were annoyed in 4.0 as well. Now its been another 2 years and we are being told; 'we haven't been able to balance the existing jobs over the past 4 years, so wait another 2.... but no promises one will come then either....'
    Don't forget for this round of "in order to balance the role" for Tanks they added another job, and for healers they said wait 2 more...
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