I hate say this. the Astra the nerf hammer is coming

[CelestaRosa]

Rip Astralogian you should have known. the nerf hammer is coming <3

I really feel for you. cause they did same too whm stormblood. nerfed to oblivion
no new healer and nerfed astra
some spoilers

Lightspeed - Removed
Gravity - Nerfed or removed - other damage spells reduced
your losing spear,spir and arrow card - nerfed
balience,bole and ewer - nerfed hard
your no longer gonna be able to use largress and protect (same as scholar)
those become whm only skills

its not like you seen this coming

[Risvertasashi]

No, we don't know that is coming. And while a lot of us are unhappy with the healer balance and there may be some nerfs or reworked abilities here and there, we can avoid petty sadism if a few abilities do get toned down? Getting nerfed isn't fun even when it is necessary. And be careful because WHM might have a few things to lose, too.

[CelestaRosa]

whms dont have button bloat we are like we need more buttons please. other then assize i dont see us nerfing cause we are most underpowered healer in stormblood right now

[Anselmet]

It sounds like you are trying to get yourself/community upset before anything has been announced. So far we have seen Yoshi P say he wants to make whm easier. What he means by that we do not know. To my knowledge nothing has been said about Astrologian or Scholar. And to be realistic, the healer that will be nerfed into the ground will be Scholar NOT Astrologian. Just like they did in HW because we were the most overpowered and sadly, we still are. So go sip your tea and calm down. For all we know they may rework all our classes to have more self identity to changing our kits over all. We just do not know.

[Risvertasashi]

It sounds like you are trying to get yourself/community upset before anything has been announced. So far we have seen Yoshi P say he wants to make whm easier. What he means by that we do not know. To my knowledge nothing has been said about Astrologian or Scholar. And to be realistic, the healer that will be nerfed into the ground will be Scholar NOT Astrologian. Just like they did in HW because we were the most overpowered and sadly, we still are. So go sip your tea and calm down. For all we know they may rework all our classes to have more self identity to changing our kits over all. We just do not know.

Yoshi-P acknowledged sch was OP thanks for the fairy. It's still not anything concrete, but it does have some worried.

That said, I kinda hope it's as you say it might be - an all-inclusive rework with each healer gaining distinctive identities sounds like it could be the step forward we need.

[CelestaRosa]

true what said yoshi p did say hes gonna hit astras too. mainly the skill lightspeed. not saying whm isn't gonna get it no where near as hard as astra and sch gonna get it. cause we already got nerf hammer last expansion all healers have some op skills have that need be addressed

i main whm ain't affraid to admit thats op whats not . already know assize getting somewhat nerfed. just saying if you play astra you should expect nerfs are coming. not saying sch or whm not getting any

[Kurando]

I really feel for you. cause they did same too whm stormblood. nerfed to oblivion

That's not entirely correct. It was because the other healers received buffs that WHM felt weaker in comparison, but it wasn't nerfed. WHM had some great actions added but they just feel short of the mark, and the lily system wasn't thought out too well. SCH had more issues than WHM on Stormblood release.

[Anselmet]

Someone link me him saying that Astralogians are getting nerfed hard.

[Yuyuka3]

whms dont have button bloat we are like we need more buttons please. other then assize i dont see us nerfing cause we are most underpowered healer in stormblood right now

True, we need more buttons. However, Yoshida's comment about making WHM easier, as well as him saying that they will likely remove skills again, really, really makes me fear for the worst with WHM. I mean, last time they did remove skills, we lost almost half of our kit, and almost double the skills other jobs lost. One would think there is nothing to take away from us anymore... yet I'm 100% sure they will find something anyway, and that we will not like it in the slightest.

That's not entirely correct. It was because the other healers received buffs that WHM felt weaker in comparison, but it wasn't nerfed. WHM had some great actions added but they just feel short of the mark, and the lily system wasn't thought out too well. SCH had more issues than WHM on Stormblood release.

"Great skills"? Which ones? Oh, you mean those skills that did nothing but bring us on par to the other healers... how they were back in 3.0. While entering 4.0. Yes, really great stuff we got, that did nothing to distinguish us from the other two while they got all the shiny new toys to play around with...

[Kurando]

"Great skills"? Which ones? Oh, you mean those skills that did nothing but bring us on par to the other healers... how they were back in 3.0. While entering 4.0. Yes, really great stuff we got, that did nothing to distinguish us from the other two while they got all the shiny new toys to play around with...

Well Thin Air is pretty amazing and on paper Plenary Indulgence should have been as well, but as I said that fell short of the mark and we only recently got a buff to make it more practical to use. Also Lillies sounded good but again it was a hot mess, so the intent was there with the actions, unfortunately they just didn't deliver how we should have expected them to compared to other healers.