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    WaterShield's Avatar
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    Lalah Elakta
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by bgd624624 View Post
    I've played off and on for years but have never delved into the hardcore/min-max community in this game. The reason is that virtually every raiding FC uses 3rd party software that is against the ToS and thus cheating (from a purely objective point of view).

    Now before people flame...

    - I'm not "anti-parser." I've used them in other games.
    - They make you better, I am not questioning their efficacy.
    - I have no problem with people seeing my stats and judging me based on that.
    - I understand SE can't "see" them anyway as they are client side.
    - I am not worried about "getting caught" if I did use them.
    - I know SE rarely enforces the ToS unless harassment is involved.
    - Parsing is openly discussed on the forums, party finder, in FCs, everywhere.
    - As an aside, the "Fight Club" meme is utterly absurd. Everyone talks about it.

    I enjoy theory crafting, numbers, stats, rankings, challenging content and teamwork. I have the free time and drive to do raid nights like I would in any other MMO. In this game though, my understanding is that if you want to raid current savage/ex content in a coordinated group, you pretty much have to break the rules.

    I don't want to break the rules.

    So, if I follow the ToS and keep away from groups that don't, I'm pretty much unable to play this game at a more competitive, harder content type level. After some years of playing, I have multiple 70's, MSQ capped, all normal/hard duties done, side quests, complete. I'm bored. I want a challenge, I want to theory craft and be called out when I mess up. But I also want to play the game legit.

    Is this even possible? Or is it pretty much, use prohibited software or don't do HC raids/trials. I'm not going to break the ToS despite vehemently disagreeing with it. I'll just move to a game where it is allowed.

    Before the flames come in... I am not pointing a finger at the raiding community, I am not holier than thou, I am fine with getting my feelings hurt, it is a game. However, I am also not okay with people bringing up parsing in PUGs that I'm in. Whether it is blame or praise I will report. Not because I'm against parsing, but because I don't want to be associated with others who are not following the rules. I'm not going to break the rules because that ruins the game for me. I'd sooner just not play.

    Any thoughts on this? Any alternative?
    Not many people will want you around in a static due to your stance. Your only option really is to PUG and pretend that other party members aren't "cheating".
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    Player
    UserHere's Avatar
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    Character
    Akira Kazama
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by WaterShield View Post
    Not many people will want you around in a static due to your stance. Your only option really is to PUG and pretend that other party members aren't "cheating".
    What you don't know can't hurt you
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