Yoshi-P considering feedback on the new races

[VillainQueen]

Considering how development works, there is a strong possibility that there are already 'basic' (but incomplete) male viera models. What I would assume is to be the likeliest of cases is that somewhere through development of Viera they stopped and switched to Hrothgar. The thinking, probably, was whether people would just want Male/Female Viera as the final race, or two races that are genderlocked (with the thinking that Male Viera and Female Hrothgar would not be popular choices anyways). I think they gambled that people wanted more races, even if gender locked.

No not really. They decided to do the Hrothgar before the female Viera and even the models we have seen were just finished. So while it could've been possible that someone did a prototype male model at some point. The Viera were an afterthought and we only got the female one because we wanted them so much. That's why we have this, not fully pleasing anyone, compromise now.

[Nariel]

snip.

let me be clear. I'm not gainst male Viera, they exist ? Good, They don't ? Don't care.

But, there is reason to choice staff made, be it good or bad or at your taste or not.

I too think its a lame excuses, but it is what it is.

[Arkdra]

Not having the resources to do both genders for both races I understand. I still would prefer one complete race over two halves. But I understand it. I can get where they're coming from.

The lore angle however doesn't hold water. SO MUCH of Ivalice lore is changed in the FFXIV version of it that I simply DO NOT BUY the lore excuse for male viera. There is no reason on lore grounds for male viera to be the one sacred cow they cannot touch when they change so much of the rest of it.

When someons says 'we/they wanted to do two races and didn't have the resources to do both genders' I can understand and respect it.

Trying to bring up the 'lore' to defend it feels like a chap excuse all things considered and that annoys me.

This is pretty much where I stand, with the addition that they really should have said that Viera dudes and Lady Hrothgar are coming later on. Even if it was an expansion further down the line, that's fine. I'm not blind to the general racial make-up of the playerbase so prioritizing what is most likely to get played makes sense. But to go backwards to the 1.0 genderlock schtick when it was panned as dumb is... dumb.

[RukiaFae]

I mean if they ever looked at the forum , which they do, they've had feedback for years on wanting Viera. So why did they decide to do something else first and then double back to Viera. Plus they already know this community didn't care for genderlock since 1.0. Saying they want feedback doesn't mean anything and it is kind of a slap in the face. Umm how many times do you want people to say the same thing?

I hope they add them down the line but I really wish they wouldn't act like they don't know what the community wants. If they really don't know and want to get a better idea of what players want maybe they should start sending out surveys in the game to get better feedback.

[whiskeybravo]

How is it gender locked when we'll be getting both genders?

Lore for Viera was always female only.

Props to SE for making a male only race as a compromise instead of breaking lore.

The actual reason we're not getting male viera or female hrothgar is development resources.

And this makes as little sense as claiming it was for lore reasons. They obviously had the development resources to create 2 races of different gender, so it should follow they would've had enough to make 2 genders of one race. But they chose not to.

[BiddyBatnana]

But I believed/heard the main issue with the Viera was that the designer of the race was against the male ones being added to the game, is this a myth or is it something he clearly stated ?

[manickitty]

Or extremely loud vocal minority which in this case pretty sure that's what it is. I don't know anyone outside of this forum that is upset at all.

It’s quite disingenuous to claim the people you don’t agree with are the vocal minority.

“People who attack those who want female ronso and male viera are the vocal minority.” See, I can do it too.

[SendohJin]

But I believed/heard the main issue with the Viera was that the designer of the race was against the male ones being added to the game, is this a myth or is it something he clearly stated ?

100% myth, he has said so on twitter.

[althenawhm]

Im not really clear why he needs to wait on fan feed back on this.
It was fairly obvious what the reaction to genderlocked races would be from the start.
Ask me a year ago how people would react and I would have told you they would hate it.

[Shougun]

Im not really clear why he needs to wait on fan feed back on this.
It was fairly obvious what the reaction to genderlocked races would be from the start.
Ask me a year ago how people would react and I would have told you they would hate it.

I think it was just a way to put it off to an indeterminate date, so people are not going on arguing it should be earlier than whenever they say it will be or if something happens that they need to delay it (because this would need to be planned future forward) that people don't flip all the tables.