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    Quote Originally Posted by Lufir View Post
    Yea it's quite upsetting how outrage culture and social justice is leaking into video games; the places we go to escape and just have fun. The western players are some of the most cringe, entitled, and self-indulgent people I've ever seen.

    With that said, I'm surprised and I find it odd that Yoshi-P acknowledges the tantrum of "no bunboy fetish" in a matter of days after its announced. Yet, the months of overwhelming support of a non-limited Blue Mage job goes unnoticed.
    I definitely agree with your first comment. I think with the BLU pushback, that's on a very different level. They are now getting called sexist, homophobic, and a plethora of other things.

    I do also feel a bit for Yoshi. People keep referring his comment where he said it would be "weird" if male Viera were a thing. Unless I'm missing a full conversation, that was just a single one-off remark and wasn't elaborated on in any way, yet people are analyzing the crap out of it and pulling the absolute worst assumptions. The comment was years ago, and in his mind he very well could have just been thinking "male are just about non-existent in XII, that would be weird if we had them", and now it's being turned into he's homophobic, and thinks any part of the LBGT community is wrong.

    I know from first hand experience how these forums can twist an incredibly innocent comment into something horrible. While none of us know how he meant that comment, I would give him the benefit of the doubt and I personally feel it was rather harmless. We already have the option to make rather effeminate males in this game, I don't think he'd be shying away from male Viera for that reason.
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    Lufir Lumini
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I definitely agree with your first comment. I think with the BLU pushback, that's on a very different level. They are now getting called sexist, homophobic, and a plethora of other things.

    I do also feel a bit for Yoshi. People keep referring his comment where he said it would be "weird" if male Viera were a thing. Unless I'm missing a full conversation, that was just a single one-off remark and wasn't elaborated on in any way, yet people are analyzing the crap out of it and pulling the absolute worst assumptions. The comment was years ago, and in his mind he very well could have just been thinking "male are just about non-existent in XII, that would be weird if we had them", and now it's being turned into he's homophobic, and thinks any part of the LBGT community is wrong.

    I know from first hand experience how these forums can twist an incredibly innocent comment into something horrible. While none of us know how he meant that comment, I would give him the benefit of the doubt and I personally feel it was rather harmless. We already have the option to make rather effeminate males in this game, I don't think he'd be shying away from male Viera for that reason.
    I definitely feel for him and his team. My point about the BLU pushback is that it was relatively civil. There were heated debates as always, but no crazy insults were thrown at Yoshi and team. The result? No response. Now we have this gender lock catastrophe, outrageous insults were pushed on Yoshi. The result? Immediate response. Will the community now learn that insulting the FFXIV team (as well as other players) with baseless claims the best course of action in order to have your voice heard so swiftly? It appears that way.

    Nevertheless, FFXIV has always been far from racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. There are women and men leading resistances against armies. Both genders are leaders of nations. There are feminine men like Alphinaud, and masculine men like Raubahn. It's the same with women characters. For those that believe that gender roles are important, there is a bit of that as well. But no, the absence of a gender from a race usurps all, lol.
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