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    Quote Originally Posted by TarynH View Post
    Of course you wouldn't. That's the whole point. Societal norms can be bad, but nobody has the right to tell another culture, let alone a person, what they should be comfortable with. Those developers are allowed to be uncomfortable if it makes them uncomfortable. They passed it off to someone that handled the issue though. Maybe the women didn't feel completely comfortable with it either. But it's not on us to judge any of them for it, nor should they be vilified for how they feel.
    I'm going to strongly disagree and say that you can absolutely judge people for how they feel, especially when they go out of their way to make it known. You're saying that it's okay for people to have discriminatory views and that they shouldn't be judged for it? Because I can think of several examples where this doesn't hold up at all.

    Maybe you feel like in this specific instance it's not something they should be judged for, but in that case we'd again have to disagree. Should they not expect criticism based on the views and values of the culture to which they are marketing and selling their product?

    No, I haven't said anything particularly nasty about them. I think FFXIV's team is talented and has delivered fantastic content. It's not like I think they should lose their jobs. I'm just calling a spade a spade. The hypermasculine/hyperfeminine genderlocked races, the bunny outfit fiasco, glamour disparity, and even the extreme sexual dimorphism of the Au Ra. The dev team has a trend of conforming to ideals which find their basis in casual, societal sexism.

    And you know what? Some people are still okay with what they've given us. That's fine! But others feels like they can and should do better. This is also fine! For me it's a "I love what you do, but this is problematic so let's talk about it" kind of situation.

    Quote Originally Posted by TarynH View Post
    Either way, I'll sit back and see what happens. But if nothing changes, then I'll accept that's what the devs wishes were for this game. It is, after all, their project. We pay to play their game, not to have ultimate say in what they do. Feedback and constructive criticism is one thing, but dictating what they do is absolutely the wrong approach.
    Thing is, we don't have the power to dictate what they do. The ball is completely in their court and they are free to do as they please while we tell them how we feel about it.
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    Last edited by J-Reyno; 03-25-2019 at 10:44 PM.