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    Floortank's Avatar
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    Viera are not worth the shortcuts they're taking to make them.

    Disclaimer: I love FFXIV, and I am excited about Shadowbringers. Final Fantasy has been a part of my life for over 25 years.

    However, the way the new races are being presented has given me a sense of consternation. In a recent interview, Yoshi P says that they didn't have time to do male Viera. They decided to start working on Viera during Return to Ivalice, and managed only to get the females done by Paris Fanfest.

    In that same interview, we find out that most headgear won't be visible on new races. Not being able to have a DRG or RDM helm/hat on your DRG or RDM is really bizarre, and a huge sign that they've really botched this implementation by rushing to completion.

    Even the hrothgar leave something to be desired. To me they just look like furry roegadyn males with different heads. Not a whole lot of unique value. Especially when you consider that they won't be able to assume some of the most iconic Final Fantasy gear.

    If things like this are too hard to add, I personally would rather have no new race at all.

    Wouldn't it have been better to do one really good race in 6.0, and spend all of that time working on a new healer in 5.0?

    I am a bit disappointed with this turn of events. Just some thoughts.

    See you in Shadowbringers.
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    I'm undecided on your conclusion, but your point about iconic gear is interesting.

    If either Viera or Hrothgar could not wear Summoner horns or similar job items it would deflate already low expectations.
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    One would assume, that the more iconic pieces of headgear would be the first for adjustment on a case-by-case basis.

    But, this hasn't been a good time lately for the playerbase's assumptions and trust, mm?
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    I'm wondering if specific headgear will be made for iconic pieces. AF gear specifically might have unique headpieces just for the new races whereas generic gear would just be invisible. Then again, SMN horn would look weird on a horned Ronso
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    Reminder that Red Mage is a Viera exclusive job in the tactics series, so having a Viera be unable to wear the Red Mage hat is crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metsonm View Post
    Reminder that Red Mage is a Viera exclusive job in the tactics series, so having a Viera be unable to wear the Red Mage hat is crazy.
    I know it has felt like tactics throughout stormblood, but XIV is its own game. Just because a game did something one way doesn't mean that this game should pay any attention to it (see DRK). I would like hats on the new races, and by the comments the devs are making they will be working to add that in the future, but "viera is rdm exclusive in tactics" is such a far-reaching argument to the point of irrelevancy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    Even the hrothgar leave something to be desired. To me they just look like furry roegadyn males with different heads. Not a whole lot of unique value. Especially when you consider that they won't be able to assume some of the most iconic Final Fantasy gear.
    Probably don't help that they share emotes, movement animations, and body frame with the Roes -- therein quite literally a reskin with an interchangeable head.

    Same chunky stride, same shoulder-hip proportions, same slouch on sprint, same awkward paddle-arming during sprint with only the hand flex seemingly adjusted, the generic NPC chest-tap, an identical idle pose... I'd have thought the point was diversification, yet we've got 50+%... squatter furred Roes.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 03-26-2019 at 07:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Probably don't help that they share all their emotes, movement animations, and their body frame with the Roes. They quite literally are a reskin with an interchangeable head.
    where are you getting this info? based on the reveal trailer they have different standing animation, different running animation and different emotes. they also have shorter trunks, and longer legs
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    Ven Black
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    Not sure why they don't just let the ears clip through stuff in the case of viera.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physic View Post
    where are you getting this info? based on the reveal trailer they have different standing animation, different running animation and different emotes. they also have shorter trunks, and longer legs
    Yes they do... they don't look like Roe's to me and the run, walk and other associated animations look very very nice in my opinion. Relative to Viera I've been pretty impressed with the reveal trailer as well. I think we need to wait for the benchmark before making decisions and comments about the quality.

    Relative to head gear didn't they say they would be working on fixing/adding to what is available post launch? One can see the difficulty in adding new races with the myriad of gear available in this game and having to adjust it for the new races. I do believe that is why the director has stated this will be the last race added.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 03-25-2019 at 10:05 PM.

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