Take a step back and breathe.

[juliet_brave]

So. Ridiculous.

Can you explain further?

I'll explain what I wrote in simpler terms. Square Enix employs Koichi Sugiyama a man who makes disparaging comments about the LGBT and denies Japanese war crimes (specifically "comfort" women). For that reason alone I don't think it is particularly wild to accuse them of allowing, enabling, or acting on sexist behavior.

[DBriggs304]

Can you explain further?

I'll explain what I wrote in simpler terms. Square Enix employs Koichi Sugiyama a man who makes disparaging comments about the LGBT and denies Japanese war crimes (specifically "comfort" women). For that reason alone I don't think it is particularly wild to accuse them of allowing, enabling, or acting on sexist behavior.

This isn't a LGBT issue. You are projecting your own feelings about a random person into their decisions which most likely had nothing to do with anything they have decided. The level of manipulation some people are trying to use to get what they want is ridiculous.

This. Is. A. Game. It's doesn't need to reflect every aspect of real life or its problems, issues, or politics.

[juliet_brave]

This isn't a LGBT issue. You are projecting your own feelings about a random person into their decisions which most likely had nothing to do with anything they have decided. The level of manipulation some people are trying to use to get what they want is ridiculous.

This. Is. A. Game. It's doesn't need to reflect every aspect of real life or its problems, issues, or politics.

The post I was replying to brought up a point about LGBT marriage in the game. My point was completely relevant to that.

"Remember when people really wanted some kind of marriage system that did not have gender constraints behind it? That wasn't something that was on the table, but they made it happened cause you the community wanted it."

Square Enix treated LGBT marriage as an exception to what is normal marriage in the game instead of the status quo by originally announcing it was only for opposite sex couples.

[Jumquat]

The post I was replying to brought up a point about LGBT marriage in the game. My point was completely relevant to that.

"Remember when people really wanted some kind of marriage system that did not have gender constraints behind it? That wasn't something that was on the table, but they made it happened cause you the community wanted it."

Square Enix treated LGBT marriage as an exception to what is normal marriage in the game instead of the status quo by originally announcing it was only for opposite sex couples.

but because you cannot be bothered to read passed your triggers you did not see that it was not an LGBT point being made. It was a this thing was added to the game in general statement. But I guess whatever we say wont matter in the long run cause you will just read what you want to.

[juliet_brave]

but because you cannot be bothered to read passed your triggers you did not see that it was not an LGBT point being made. It was a this thing was added to the game in general statement. But I guess whatever we say wont matter in the long run cause you will just read what you want to.

The point you made was inherently an LGBT issue with the game. You know who was protesting against that decision at the time? Mostly LGBT players and then people who played same sex characters that wanted to get married. We shouldn't be grateful they opened up marriage to same sex couples when it should have been that way from the start. People had to fight for it and I'm glad people are fighting for male Viera and female Hrothgar.

[Jumquat]

The point you made was inherently an LGBT issue with the game. You know who was protesting against that decision at the time? Mostly LGBT players and then people who played same sex characters that wanted to get married. We shouldn't be grateful they opened up marriage to same sex couples when it should have been that way from the start. People had to fight for it and I'm glad people are fighting for male Viera and female Hrothgar.

No, it really wasn't. That was me listing an occasion in MMO history where a games developers added content to a game that was drastically out of place in the MMO market, with the reference being that no other developer will do that for you. You are the one with an agenda and to that I say, so what?

[juliet_brave]

No, it really wasn't. That was me listing an occasion in MMO history where a games developers added content to a game that was drastically out of place in the MMO market, with the reference being that no other developer will do that for you. You are the one with an agenda and to that I say, so what?

The occasion you are talking about is one that is intrinsically about LGBT players and same sex characters. And while it is great, Square Enix should not be celebrated highly for adding it after they announced it was straights only. Your example of they do things no other developers will for you is flawed, because people had to drag them kicking and screaming to get it done.