only getting 95% of what we're paying for.

[Adren]

So many of you are defending this.. The old republic, a F2P mmo, makes housing available for everyone. Even F2P players. You just have to earn it not be a chosen few people who have access to something, in some cases multiples of something. Like Moon on Mateus has 12 houses. While 90% of the server can't even get 1. In fact I can't think of any modern large scale MMO that does things the way square does? Why? They realize that if the advertise housing as a selling point then limit it to only 10% of their customers.... They'd get called out for their stupidity.

I see this a lot in my line of work. Companies promote one thing then totally switch it up after they have your money. They get away with supplying a sub standard product because of the people addicted to their product. How hard is it to see when you're in an abusive relationship? SE is abusing you, getting away with it and you just keep coming back for more. This was an issue when HW released, years later is it fixed? NO. Why? SE isn't losing money over it.

I may be the only person willing to quit paying for the game for a few months to make things better for everyone else. I have other things to occupy my time. The old republic, ESO, etc. SE isn't the only dealer in town to scratch my MMO itch on. But by all means continue to defend you're abusive relationship and keep making it harder for everyone else to enjoy ALL the content they're paying for.

[Jojoya]

So many of you are defending this.. The old republic, a F2P mmo, makes housing available for everyone. Even F2P players. You just have to earn it not be a chosen few people who have access to something, in some cases multiples of something. Like Moon on Mateus has 12 houses. While 90% of the server can't even get 1. In fact I can't think of any modern large scale MMO that does things the way square does? Why? They realize that if the advertise housing as a selling point then limit it to only 10% of their customers.... They'd get called out for their stupidity.

I see this a lot in my line of work. Companies promote one thing then totally switch it up after they have your money. They get away with supplying a sub standard product because of the people addicted to their product. How hard is it to see when you're in an abusive relationship? SE is abusing you, getting away with it and you just keep coming back for more. This was an issue when HW released, years later is it fixed? NO. Why? SE isn't losing money over it.

I may be the only person willing to quit paying for the game for a few months to make things better for everyone else. I have other things to occupy my time. The old republic, ESO, etc. SE isn't the only dealer in town to scratch my MMO itch on. But by all means continue to defend you're abusive relationship and keep making it harder for everyone else to enjoy ALL the content they're paying for.

Housing does not mean only house. Housing includes apartments and FC rooms, not just houses. They're all personal spaces for you to decorate.

Last I heard, there was no problem getting an apartment on any server.

You also had the option to choose to play on a server where houses were available if you wanted more than an apartment. You chose Mateus instead.

You're being overly dramatic when you call this an abusive relationship. Stop it. Or go ahead and quit if you want. Go scratch your itch with another MMO if FFXIV isn't satisfying you.

The truth is you've done this to yourself by expecting everything to be catered to you the way you want without you having to make meaningful choice to get what's most important to you. Start taking responsibility for your choices and the consequences from those choices.

Next month, the free transfer period opens up for NA servers. IF you want a house that badly, leave Mateus and go a world that will have housing available once all the players who bought up housing just to to get their free 3 million gil transfer bonus leave. We had over 600 house availables on Coeurl back in October before the gil giveaway was announced and I expect at least half that number to become available again during the free transfer period as people move to stay with their friends on the Aether servers.

There's your chance to get a house at last. Will you take it, or will you once again play the victim card?

[Adren]

You also had the option to choose to play on a server where houses were available if you wanted more than an apartment. You chose Mateus instead.

So your solution is leave all my friends to get a house? No I would rather leave the game, cut SE's funding in hopes that others will follow so they fix the issue for everyone. But on your solution, let me ask you this: How am I supposed to know what servers have houses on them until I create the character? How was I supposed to know Mateus, excalibur, or 80% of the other servers were full? I didn't choose mateus knowing the housing was full. I chose mateus because it's data center is closer to my physical location and it's decent population so your logic is flawed. But I've moved on and this will be my last post on the subject.

I didn't quit the game because I dislike the game. Far from it, although there have been recent additions and changes to the game that boggle the mind of any ration individual. I've built quite a large friend list and when I looked at all the people in my FC who will NEVER have a house because SE gates it off I couldn't support the company anymore. Plain and simple. This is an abusive business relationship sorry you can't see that. They take the money and ignore the negative comments and focus on the "Attabois and Gudonyas". You guys probably have housing, I get it it's a non-issue for you. But many people have complained about it and SE will continue to trickle in housing keeping it gated off for the majority of it's customers. Why? I have no idea. It's not a technological limitation issue. Bioware offers more amenities to ALL their customers in The Old Republic and they make way less off that game then SE does off FF14. The only thing I can chock it up to is that SE has been reporting a net loss in income for the past 4 quarters. If you take a look at their investor letter for the 4th quarter they report a net loss of income of 28 million. That's not good. It's not quite "OMG SE is going under" bad, but it's not good.

If they would fix the housing issue a lot of people would probably come back to the game. I know many of my friends who switched games would. They still bug me about the housing issue. I would but mostly because I miss my FC friends Like Tarv and keto popoto though. Miss you guys like no tomorrow. As it stands though I hope more people realize that if you're in a business relationship with a company that continues to ignore the complaints of the majority of it's customers, ya might wanna get out of that relationship, it's not healthy. You guys do you though, me I'ma take a stand and hope they fix this issue for my friends even if I don't come back at least something I did may have gotten through to them and my friends can enjoy 100% of the game they pay for.

[Penthea]

So your solution is leave all my friends to get a house?

With world visiting you won't have to leave your friends completely behind as long as your new server is on the same data centre as theirs. I understand that if you want to stay in the same fc this isn't straight forward. But the point is you won't be completely cut off.

How am I supposed to know what servers have houses on them until I create the character?

You can check three out of the four housing districts on low lvl alts. Only Shirogane requires you to be high lvl. Doing that is standard practise for anyone thinking of changing server.

This is an abusive business relationship sorry you can't see that.

I take it you have never been in an actual abusive relationship then.

The housing situation is bad but calling it an abusive relationship is a huge overreaction. I wonder how you would feel if things were as bad as 1.0, back when SE knowingly released an unfinished game with no content and a horrendous ui, with severe server stability issues and performance issues to the point that the game was unplayable for so many, even several months after release. It was as bad as Fallout 76. What would you call that I wonder? A crime against humanity?

It's not a technological limitation issue.

Actually in the case of FFXIV it could be. It's built on the foundations of the extremely broken 1.0. A lot of that bad code is still lurking in the game, and it prevents a lot of things that should be standard to be introduced slower or not at all. SE had no choice but to build the game in this manner because 2.0 had to be built in record time to not lose the whole playerbase after the disastrous 1.0.

You guys probably have housing. I get it it's a non-issue for you.

I do but I didn't always have one. During the time my character was homeless I didn't accuse SE of abusing the playerbase. I was frustrated and disappointed. But I wasn't flinging disproportionately harsh insults at SE. It's not like they intentionally made the housing system bad just to mess with players. They have even stated that they regret the way they made the system.

And it's not like I suddenly became okay with housing as soon as I got a house. I am very active in the housing forums and I regularly criticise SE's poor decision making when it comes to this part of the game. I will always feel as if housing has issues that need to be solved as long as players are unfairly left out due to how the system works. Not everyone who has a house has the attitude "I got mine, so it's all good".

SE aren't going to listen to a player who accuses them of being abusive. They would be more receptive to constructive criticism than insults.

[Adren]

SE aren't going to listen to a player who accuses them of being abusive. They would be more receptive to constructive criticism than insults.

I know I said my last post here was.. well the last but this one got me. I'm gonna spit some truth here.

SE isn't going to listen to anyone with a negative tone to their statement period. because they have too many morons defending them. If it isn't "OMG Yoshi P. is a GOD." SE ignores it. I don't accuse them just to insult them, I accuse them of being abusive because they are. Truth is more important than their feelings, and the matter boils down to one simple truth. They are taking advantage of the players. Their decision to say "Sorry we screwed up but we can't fix it" is a lie. What they're saying is "Yea we screwed up but we AREN'T going to spend the money to fix it." This is programming, it's not written in stone people you can recode it. They aren't going to recode it when they can just slowly trickle out more and more housing in each xpac and they sell more xpacs.

They aren't going to though because people keep defending them and feeding them money and letting them get away with it. SE isn't the problem here. It's half backed, short sighted fan bois with more money than sense. I'm not sorry if that offends people it's the truth and truth is paramount to feels in this situation. The gaming industry is filled to the brim with horrible content that's just a money grab because people are acting like a heroine addicts and defending their dealer while their dealer is poking them in the rear with a pitch fork.

I was excited to see Viera and Ronso introduced, and the new housing idea sounds intriguing but it's not enough to cover up years of them neglecting to fix the one issue the player base has been most vocal about just so they can gain more sales of the xpac.

[Penthea]

SE isn't going to listen to anyone with a negative tone to their statement period. because they have too many morons defending them.

Spend more time on the forums and you'll see people are far more critical than supportive, especially when it comes to housing.

[Jojoya]

So your solution is leave all my friends to get a house?

Two word: World Visit.

Every NA preferred world is getting placed on Crystal with Mateus and Balmung. You don't have to leave your friends. You'll be free to continue playing with unhindered as long as they're going to be on a Crystal world.

SE is working on ways to address the housing issue. They already hinted as Ishgard housing coming next expac as part of the Reconstruction. Whether it's a new set of wards or a new instanced system (which is what we really need) is unknown but they are working on something. They most definitely have been listening to players considering many of the other small changes we've already gotten this expansion. Big changes aren't something they can do on a whim and they have to time implementation around other content changes..

But you're right - if all you're going to do is sit here and complain you need to walk away.

As for your friends, they can enjoy 100% of the game if they prefer to stay. They simply need to choose to do the things you refuse to do.