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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Scouting would be the smarter choice from a design perspective if only to balance out gearing: 4/3/3/2/2/3 would feel a lot better in terms of drops, mainly in 24-mans, than 4/3/3/3/1/3.
    Hmm, and what about Maiming gear? Still exclusive to dragoons, isn't it?

    Unless they're going to give that to Gunbreaker instead of normal tank gear, I suppose - if they can make that work.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Hmm, and what about Maiming gear? Still exclusive to dragoons, isn't it?

    Unless they're going to give that to Gunbreaker instead of normal tank gear, I suppose - if they can make that work.
    Maiming gear has no reason to be separate from striking gear anymore. It originally had different defensive stats from striking giving dragoons higher physical defense and lower magical, but this was determined not to be good for the raiding scene wherein a dragoon would die to a party-wide mechanic that everyone else would live through just because the damage was magical. So now maiming gear maintains higher physical defense but the same magical. Making it so the sets are no longer separate would be a smart move.

    Additionally Scouting and Aiming sets used to have different defensive stats, but that is no longer the case too. So if they're looking to consolidate, they can eliminate one and have all DEX jobs use the same armor sets.
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  3. #13
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    Honestly I can see it going either way. Ninja gear is well just for ninja's now and having another class use it can work. Plus Throwing weapons could be either pierce or slashing, depending on the weapon being used(chakrams are obviously slashing but THrowing knives and daggers and Shurican could be piercing. Heck if they get throwing fans thats slashing too)

    But I am being biased and want them to be normal Ranged DPS gear so I can use Amon's hat on my for now planned glam

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    Hi, OP again.

    It looks like a Japanese site asked a very similar question. Google Translate only works so well, so I'm curious if anyone can give a better translation.
    https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201903240006/

    Google Translate:
    -Then, 4 jobs including ninjas become DEX. For example, do you consider moving ninjas to another category?

    Mr. Yoshida: Please wait for the announcement in the middle of May. It is difficult to understand that the battle system is only one system change. If you are operating for six years after birth, various systems will be linked, and if you change some of them, it will affect other places. It is because there is a possibility of misunderstanding when speaking a part by pinpoint now.

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    吉田氏:レンジDPSなのでDEXになるんだろうなぁと思っています。

    ――そうすると忍者も含めて4ジョブがDEXになりますが、例えば忍者を別なカテゴリに移すということは考えていますか。

    吉田氏:これ以上は5月中旬の発表をお待ち下さい。バトルシステムは、1つのシステム変更だけですと理解が難しいと思います。新生してから丸6年運営していると、色々なシステムが連鎖しているので一部を変えると、別な場所に影響がでてしまいます。今はピンポイントで一部をお話すると、誤解を生む可能性があるからです。
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    Last edited by Veritas-Ancora; 03-25-2019 at 04:25 AM. Reason: Adding quoted text
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    I hope the devs are listening. We need the devs to please listen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    Hi, OP again.

    It looks like a Japanese site asked a very similar question. Google Translate only works so well, so I'm curious if anyone can give a better translation.
    https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201903240006/

    Google Translate:
    -Then, 4 jobs including ninjas become DEX. For example, do you consider moving ninjas to another category?

    Mr. Yoshida: Please wait for the announcement in the middle of May. It is difficult to understand that the battle system is only one system change. If you are operating for six years after birth, various systems will be linked, and if you change some of them, it will affect other places. It is because there is a possibility of misunderstanding when speaking a part by pinpoint now.

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    吉田氏:レンジDPSなのでDEXになるんだろうなぁと思っています。

    ――そうすると忍者も含めて4ジョブがDEXになりますが、例えば忍者を別なカテゴリに移すということは考えていますか。

    吉田氏:これ以上は5月中旬の発表をお待ち下さい。バトルシステムは、1つのシステム変更だけですと理解が難しいと思います。新生してから丸6年運営していると、色々なシステムが連鎖しているので一部を変えると、別な場所に影響がでてしまいます。今はピンポイントで一部をお話すると、誤解を生む可能性があるからです。

    it almost sounds like they are going to fully change how armor works?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veritas-Ancora View Post
    Hi, OP again.

    It looks like a Japanese site asked a very similar question. Google Translate only works so well, so I'm curious if anyone can give a better translation.
    https://www.gamer.ne.jp/news/201903240006/

    Google Translate:
    -Then, 4 jobs including ninjas become DEX. For example, do you consider moving ninjas to another category?

    Mr. Yoshida: Please wait for the announcement in the middle of May. It is difficult to understand that the battle system is only one system change. If you are operating for six years after birth, various systems will be linked, and if you change some of them, it will affect other places. It is because there is a possibility of misunderstanding when speaking a part by pinpoint now.

    Original:

    吉田氏:レンジDPSなのでDEXになるんだろうなぁと思っています。

    ――そうすると忍者も含めて4ジョブがDEXになりますが、例えば忍者を別なカテゴリに移すということは考えていますか。

    吉田氏:これ以上は5月中旬の発表をお待ち下さい。バトルシステムは、1つのシステム変更だけですと理解が難しいと思います。新生してから丸6年運営していると、色々なシステムが連鎖しているので一部を変えると、別な場所に影響がでてしまいます。今はピンポイントで一部をお話すると、誤解を生む可能性があるからです。
    Basically this is my thinking on the whole announcement of Fan Fest. We won't know why SE did what they did until we see the entire picture.
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    It is totally plausible they could consolidate DPS jobs into DEX armor, STR armor, and INT armor. I suppose we will have to wait for further announcements.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lulunami View Post
    It is totally plausible they could consolidate DPS jobs into DEX armor, STR armor, and INT armor. I suppose we will have to wait for further announcements.
    It'd also hopefully have the side effect of glamour restrictions being loosened.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by zferolie View Post
    it almost sounds like they are going to fully change how armor works?
    This is in reference to during the Live Letter at Japan's FanFest, he stated you cannot change one aspect of the game without it affecting another aspect. Them changing the battle system may effect armor, so they might not be able to answer due to work being currently done and issues that have still yet to come up and be worked on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lulunami View Post
    It is totally plausible they could consolidate DPS jobs into DEX armor, STR armor, and INT armor. I suppose we will have to wait for further announcements.
    I'd be down for that. Scouting and Maiming being their own gear sets has basically just meant that there's a fail state in the Loot pool no matter what you're running. If they cut them out then you're less likely to get a gear drop that no one can use.
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