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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    But THIS is also the problem. I don't have an issue with people voicing their concerns for the game, and looking to have a dialogue about it. MY problem is when people feel the need to announce that they have quit the game, and expect me to care. I'm not going to have a conversation with a person who has already quit. FOR WHAT? that's a complete waste of my time. I'd rather talk to people who has these concerns but are still willing to play. Those are the people I feel should be heard. If you're the person that likes to hold the game ransom until you get what you want, I have no sympathy for you. and I will ALWAYS say that this is really just a game, and like any and every other game, if it doesn't meet your basic level criteria for a game that you would play, then stop playing. There's nothing wrong with that.
    At the same time, leaving their feedback on the OF as for why they're quitting is, to my knowledge, the only way SE might (remotely) see why submission numbers might drop, as I don't believe there is a thing of "before you go, please tell us the reason for leaving us" when you cancel your subscription. So them leaving their reason for why they'd be quitting on the OF is still a valid course of action. I'm not quitting despite my own disappointment with one or two aspects of it, because I have good faith in Yoshi-P and the dev team that there will be far more things that I will enjoy than things that have me disappointed. It's been the case for me so far these past six years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varathael View Post
    as I don't believe there is a thing of "before you go, please tell us the reason for leaving us" when you cancel your subscription.
    I was surprised to discover yesterday that there actually is, though it's a multiple choice question with only very basic options. If you want to leave in depth feedback you're still going to have to go to the OF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpiritMuse View Post
    I was surprised to discover yesterday that there actually is, though it's a multiple choice question with only very basic options. If you want to leave in depth feedback you're still going to have to go to the OF.
    Which SE is known for not reading. Why? Because of stuff like this. Hyperfocusing on the negatives. If they read any feedback, you'd best believe Diadem and Eureka would of been canned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varathael View Post
    At the same time, leaving their feedback on the OF as for why they're quitting is, to my knowledge, the only way SE might (remotely) see why submission numbers might drop, as I don't believe there is a thing of "before you go, please tell us the reason for leaving us" when you cancel your subscription. So them leaving their reason for why they'd be quitting on the OF is still a valid course of action. I'm not quitting despite my own disappointment with one or two aspects of it, because I have good faith in Yoshi-P and the dev team that there will be far more things that I will enjoy than things that have me disappointed. It's been the case for me so far these past six years.
    uuhhhh....

    Lets be honest with ourselves. The people who come on these forums and announce their mass exodus is not doing it for SE to see, and probably don't even think it would trigger a response from SE anyway. No, they're doing it for us, the people that they know will read their posts, and will reply to it. They want us to read their post so they can,

    A) validate their feelings by seeing others reply to their posts with the same thoughts and opinions.
    B) Baiting responses from dissenting people to have the same, tired discussions that are had everyday (someone like me for instance).

    See, whenever there's something happening that people don't like, they start these unsub trains, the whole vote with your wallet thing. But how often do these posts EVER result in the change the unsubbers are hoping for?

    When we saw the initial SB trailer, and everybody just KNEW that lyse (still Yda at the time, you know that person that was always clearly a monk) was a dancer. They begged for dancer to be released (not as a healer btw). When we found out that (obviously) she was indeed a monk, unsubscribes train sparks. She's still a monk though right?

    When the god forsaken jump potions were announced. You couldn't log in and not see at least 20 DIFFERENT & NEW forum posts every single day talking about how people are quitting, unsubbing, deleting chars, canceling accounts. it was massive, and yet, we still have them. There's even a very well timed sale going on for them right now.

    same thing happened just recently when we found out BLU was going to be a limited job. The unsubscribes posts were nonstop, yet BLU happened the way they wanted it to all the same.

    So it begs the question. Is the purpose of these unsub posts truly for SE's sake? I don't think so. They are for the people who frequent these forums.

    but you know what would REALLY make SE pay attention to the people that Unsub? If all the people that threatened to unsub actually just unsubbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    uuhhhh....

    Lets be honest with ourselves. The people who come on these forums and announce their mass exodus is not doing it for SE to see, and probably don't even think it would trigger a response from SE anyway. No, they're doing it for us, the people that they know will read their posts, and will reply to it. They want us to read their post so they can,

    A) validate their feelings by seeing others reply to their posts with the same thoughts and opinions.
    B) Baiting responses from dissenting people to have the same, tired discussions that are had everyday (someone like me for instance).

    See, whenever there's something happening that people don't like, they start these unsub trains, the whole vote with your wallet thing. But how often do these posts EVER result in the change the unsubbers are hoping for?

    When we saw the initial SB trailer, and everybody just KNEW that lyse (still Yda at the time, you know that person that was always clearly a monk) was a dancer. They begged for dancer to be released (not as a healer btw). When we found out that (obviously) she was indeed a monk, unsubscribes train sparks. She's still a monk though right?

    When the god forsaken jump potions were announced. You couldn't log in and not see at least 20 DIFFERENT & NEW forum posts every single day talking about how people are quitting, unsubbing, deleting chars, canceling accounts. it was massive, and yet, we still have them. There's even a very well timed sale going on for them right now.

    same thing happened just recently when we found out BLU was going to be a limited job. The unsubscribes posts were nonstop, yet BLU happened the way they wanted it to all the same.

    So it begs the question. Is the purpose of these unsub posts truly for SE's sake? I don't think so. They are for the people who frequent these forums.

    but you know what would REALLY make SE pay attention to the people that Unsub? If all the people that threatened to unsub actually just unsubbed.

    Ah those was crazy times. So much salt for unheard and reaching dreams. She literally did snap punch in the movie yet dancer. :c
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