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  1. #11
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    MiraKershaw's Avatar
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    Mira Verescu
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    Adamantoise
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tremara View Post
    The problem isn't that Dancer is a DPS - the problem is that healers don't get a new job at all. If SE would have presented a 3rd job in Tokyo everything would have been peachy but to get ignored for two more years kinda stings.
    Yes it would have been peachy but they already said they won't do 3 jobs a expansion anymore, yeah it sucks no new healer job but your not being ignored , depending on the changes they make each healer might actually feel different and not all just pure heals and shields , I wouldn't gloom and doom now, I'd wait till we get more info on the healer rebalancing
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  2. #12
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Apparently I should have tagged my post as sarcasm.
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  3. #13
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    Tremara Ryne
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MiraKershaw View Post
    Yes it would have been peachy but they already said they won't do 3 jobs a expansion anymore, yeah it sucks no new healer job but your not being ignored , depending on the changes they make each healer might actually feel different and not all just pure heals and shields , I wouldn't gloom and doom now, I'd wait till we get more info on the healer rebalancing
    Sry, but I had to chuckle ... healers not being ignored? lol

    All SE ever gave healers were temporary fixes which most of the time sucked. And getting the same excuse like last time that classes needed balancing - please, don't make me laugh, the balancing issue is clearly not a reason to not add new jobs for roles because tanks get a new job.

    I admitt that I'm abit salty for not getting a new healer job but it won't stop me from playing this game. But let ppl vent their frustration without making excuses for SE.
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    Last edited by Tremara; 03-24-2019 at 08:11 PM.

  4. #14
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    No, we don't need another healer. Even worse than only have 6 long range DPS classes, we only have 1 dexterity-using melee. So first we have to add more dex melees. I think both new jobs in 2021 will have to be dex melees, and then one more in 2023. And then we can maybe think of adding a new healer, if we don't find any more DPS shortages and if the healers are perfectly balanced. If they aren't then new healers will need to be delayed longer.
    It's almost like a job that dances is a perfect candidate for dex based job. . .

    I'd imagine they're going to share scouting gear.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  5. #15
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    Ea Sin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Apparently I should have tagged my post as sarcasm.
    I loled when I saw people taking you seriously
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  6. #16
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    Josco Bombadil
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvain View Post
    Saying whm is sub-par is fine, but the whole "WHM is worthless" is getting old. Whm can clear any content as well as any other healer and unless you're pushing first week clear, the ~1000 dps provided by cards shouldn't be an issue anymore.

    Plenty of group have cleared all content with all 3 healers so whm is very far from bein sub-par. I find it to be quite useful on UwU personally.
    Yes, WHM is good for UWU...and that is about it. If you have to choose between WHM with lilies and WHM clone with buffs and utility, there's no debate. One is objectively better for the group than the other. It's not just DPS, either...diurnal AST still has access to mitigation and has 2 group AoEs, can cast on the move more than once, etc. The only real advantage to running as WHM is that it's easier to play. Again, I really enjoy WHM, but you have to be honest about where the class is. If they fix it and all 3 classes are comparable in utility, that may be enough to hold us until 6.0. If not, going another 2 years of having 2 classes to choose from in a very in-demand role is going to burn a lot of people out.
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    To deny that the healer role is neglected from the devs is like denying championship games in professional sports are fixed.

    All three healers being able to clear all content means nothing. It's a very easy task to make sure that healing requirements are not so intense that only WHM can do it. Toss in some braindead DPS for filler in between requirements and toss in one-shot mechanics for us to fix, and boom! Done. We literally have to rely on player derps to make our own gameplay interesting, and nothing is more invalidating than watching a tank and 2 DPS with no ability to raise still clear a dungeon boss @80% HP when you screw up and eat dirt.

    It's not that we're not getting a 4th healer this expansion that are making us salty; it's the circumstances that have lead up to this that have forced the devs to forego releasing a new healer in 5.0. Their neglect of the role in favor of other jobs and content is why we are in the position we are in now, and it is not right. It is not fair. We are underappreciated, and I have to question any healer main who cannot see that.
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